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  • DarthSean
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 864

    Garand adjustable gas plug question

    Does an adjustable gas plug make it possible to shoot modern pressure loads (like high power big game loads) or loads heavier than 180 grains in a Garand, and will it wear the barrel and chamber any more than it would on say, a recent production Remington or Savage?
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    campperrykid
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 516

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    Tony from New York .

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    • #3
      echo884
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 422

      As far as I know, Yes. The adjustable plug will allow the Garand to shoot modern pressure loads, but you will have to fiddle with it to make it work. Like the instructions say: Keep it wide open on the first shot. Then slowly screw in the screw 1/4 to 1/2 turns each shot until the action cycles correctly.

      As far as the barrel/chamber, I don't know.

      Good luck!

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      • #4
        rp55
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2009
        • 1823

        Yes an adjustable plug will let you shoot modern loads and you set it exactly as echo884 described. They are currently on sale at Midway. You have to reset it for different loads. I went to the trouble of putting one in and then bought 8 pounds of IMR 4895 and duplicated the M1 ball load and didn't need it after all.
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        • #5
          Orlando
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 1827

          Even with the adjustable screw you should stay with weights under 180gr. It is possible to go heavier, but Schuster warns you of this. Info is on their wensite

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          • #6
            campperrykid
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 516

            A search by brand name will likely bring up a lot of detailed discussion about the adjustables.
            " ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
            Tony from New York .

            Conflict Resolution 201:
            Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
            Don't MESS with US !

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            • #7
              EricClay
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 144

              Originally posted by DarthSean
              Does an adjustable gas plug make it possible to shoot modern pressure loads (like high power big game loads) or loads heavier than 180 grains in a Garand, and will it wear the barrel and chamber any more than it would on say, a recent production Remington or Savage?
              The issue isn't the chamber pressure of the load it's the amount of gas pressure that the load produces in the gas cylinder that operates the action of the rifle.

              I sell a ported Gas screw that works on a different principal then the vented gas plugs do. If interested you can read about it here.

              M1 Garand Ported Gas Plug

              I've also recently posted some information on commercial ammunition over on the CMP webpage. You might find that discussion of interest.



              Eric

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              • #8
                Cato
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 5659

                Do so at your own risk (or that of your rifle). Isn't there still plenty of surplus 30 06 still around?

                And won't your "high pressure" loads just become the "low pressure" loads you don't want to shoot?

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                • #9
                  Reductio
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 1923

                  Originally posted by Cato
                  Do so at your own risk (or that of your rifle). Isn't there still plenty of surplus 30 06 still around?

                  And won't your "high pressure" loads just become the "low pressure" loads you don't want to shoot?
                  Surp. 30-06 is magnetic, and therefore not allowed at most all Socal ranges, which is exactly why I got a plug for my CMP M1. There's no way I can make it out to BLM as much as I want to between working two jobs and college, so Angeles it is with the plug and modern ammo.

                  You misunderstand the point of the plug... it doesn't really change the bullet's velocity or the pressure behind it down the bore. What it does regulate is the flow of gas back to the op-rod. Too much pressure there, and you bend and op-rod, or worse, crack your receiver. No bueno.
                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                  Ah, the old "form over function" argument. I guess some people would rather be seen with a hot blonde who won't put out than with a "Neil 8" who will make you .

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                  • #10
                    campperrykid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 516

                    One more big advantage to the adjustables , even with USGI and Allied milspec ball:

                    The adjustables reduce cycle speed and thus reduce parts wear , a significant consideration given the current trends in parts prices . The Garand was designed & built to work all the time , under horrific conditions . The M1 is overgased for normal civilian hobby use.
                    " ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
                    Tony from New York .

                    Conflict Resolution 201:
                    Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
                    Don't MESS with US !

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                    • #11
                      ejhc11
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1214

                      There are two known gas ports on the market to safely allow commercial ammo usage but I still choose to keep my commercial round choices under 170gr. With the adjustable gas plug you can turn the M1 Garand into a bolt action rifle in the extreme setting. It would not wear out the gun but more likely damage the gas system if a gas plug was not used correctly.

                      The McCann Adjustable Gas System
                      (My opinion easier to use - 5 preset jets, match the jet to the different ammo)


                      Schuster M1 Garand Adjustable Gas Nut
                      (Not as easy to use, you need to readjust from the beginning everytime you change ammo)
                      Shop now for the finest in custom made M1 Garand & AR-15 Tools and Accessories. Get our highly rated Schuster Adjustable Gas plug for your M1 or M1A


                      Brownells sells both plugs and Midway the Schuster only.

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                      • #12
                        Tanner68
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2147

                        Originally posted by Reductio
                        Surp. 30-06 is magnetic, and therefore not allowed at most all Socal ranges, which is exactly why I got a plug for my CMP M1. There's no way I can make it out to BLM as much as I want to between working two jobs and college, so Angeles it is with the plug and modern ammo.
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                        I have found plenty of HXP that does not attract a magnet. Check your ammo. You may be GTG.

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                        • #13
                          rojocorsa
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9139

                          is overgased

                          Not surprising at all. Most military weapons are. I know the AK sure is.
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                          • #14
                            Reductio
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 1923

                            Originally posted by Tanner68
                            I have found plenty of HXP that does not attract a magnet. Check your ammo. You may be GTG.
                            Sadly all mine is marginally magnetic.... would be enough to annoy some RO @ Angeles.
                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            Ah, the old "form over function" argument. I guess some people would rather be seen with a hot blonde who won't put out than with a "Neil 8" who will make you .

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