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  • farias4000
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 319

    1903 remington identification help needed

    I've listed this as an 03a3 however received a reply that this is a M1903-A4. Numbers in the high 3 million so it's hard to find out what it is. Does anyone know exactly what this is? The whole time owning it I thought is was an 03A3 and wanted to save the argument since the person inquiring made a point.





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    Noonanda
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3404

    it depends on where the markings are on the top of the reciever. If you can read the maker and or model the serial number without the scope mount getting in the way you have an A4.
    A4's were also marked M-1903A3 but the serial numbers and model were spread out to be clear even with a scope mount
    post a few pics of the top of the reciever
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    • #3
      Flyin Brian
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Oct 2009
      • 3395

      If it's in the high 300,000 range it's probably not an A4. The only A4 serial numbers in the 300 range were 340xxx to 342xxx. Have you tried a web search? The serial numbers for A4 production are posted in various places.
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      • #4
        blu97
        Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 236

        Looks like the 03 to me.

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        • #5
          farias4000
          Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 319

          It's in the 3 million range. The redding scope mount covers the markings. And reads:

          U.S.
          Remington
          model1903
          3,482,xxx

          No other markings anywhere else that I can see. Trigger guard looks nothing like any of the other '03's I've scene. I did locate a photo of a M1903-A4 Sniper rifle that looked very similar to the stock and form of the barrel but what do I know about these things.

          Any help greatly appreciated.
          Last edited by farias4000; 07-07-2011, 12:10 PM.
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          • #6
            Bhobbs
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            • Feb 2009
            • 11851

            The rear of the receiver looks wrong. Heres a pic of a 03a4.

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            • #7
              kendog4570
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2008
              • 5180

              1903

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              • #8
                farias4000
                Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 319

                Yup mine is not on the side like that. It's right on top underneath the scope mount. My bolt looks nothing like that one either. So is this just an 03 as the other two replies have suggested? I was under the assumption the 3 million SN# represented a 03a3 until the the question on if it was an 03a4 yet two replies just say it's an 03?????

                Originally posted by Bhobbs
                The rear of the receiver looks wrong. Heres a pic of a 03a4.
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                • #9
                  Rogerbutthead
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3864

                  Its a sporterized 1903 type - isn't it?

                  Does it really matter much what type of rifle it originally was?

                  I would think it has not much collector value now.

                  Worth around $400 - $600 on the used gun market?

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                  • #10
                    farias4000
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 319

                    Damn OK I priced it way below that. It does matter, many asked what variant of 03 it was since a few had intentions on bringing it back to it's original or close to original configuration. The one who asked if it's an A4 wanted to get this restored for match shooting.
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                    • #11
                      fatfreadiescat
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 669

                      I don't think you'll get anything near $400 for a sporterized 03.
                      $250 is about max.
                      Receiver has at least 4 extra holes in it and the front sight is aftermarket.
                      Safety has been changed

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                      • #12
                        SVT-40
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                        • Jan 2008
                        • 12912

                        Just a nice 03 sporter. Value in the $200 to $300's
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                        • #13
                          Jeff L
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1219

                          03 sporters AKA bubba's were common in the 50s and 60s since 03s were cheap and plentiful. The NRA even put out a book on how you can sporterize your USGI surplus rifle. The 2 biggest factors that reduce the value of the rifle are: it's been D&Td for a scope and target sight on the side, plus the barrel has been shortened. Also, the bolt was modified and the safety was replaced.
                          http://www.jouster2.com/forums/forum.php
                          vishooter's 1903 page

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                          • #14
                            gunboat
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3288

                            I won't argue the actual cash value of the rifle, but it is not a "bubba". The rifle has been modified in a professional manner not just hacked up.

                            1958 - rifle, delivered to the door = $21, weaver scope = $30, bridge mount = $10 reworked safety =10 , ramp front sight = $8 D&T and other minor work $25, stock rework by owner $0 - about $105 total, not all paid out at once.
                            New rem 721 30/06 about $90 plus scope and mount = about $140 cash or payments and not too many folks had $140 cash in their jeans.

                            So a sporter springfield made good sense then.

                            Oh, and your $80+ cmp bayonets went for about fifty cents each, maybe a buck for a 1916. Nobody particularly wanted them, except for weed pullers or a poor tool to cut fibreglas insuation.

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                            • #15
                              smle-man
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10607

                              Originally posted by gunboat
                              I won't argue the actual cash value of the rifle, but it is not a "bubba". The rifle has been modified in a professional manner not just hacked up.

                              1958 - rifle, delivered to the door = $21, weaver scope = $30, bridge mount = $10 reworked safety =10 , ramp front sight = $8 D&T and other minor work $25, stock rework by owner $0 - about $105 total, not all paid out at once.
                              New rem 721 30/06 about $90 plus scope and mount = about $140 cash or payments and not too many folks had $140 cash in their jeans.

                              So a sporter springfield made good sense then.

                              Oh, and your $80+ cmp bayonets went for about fifty cents each, maybe a buck for a 1916. Nobody particularly wanted them, except for weed pullers or a poor tool to cut fibreglas insuation.

                              If your numbers are correct, that sporter cost the shooter $796 in today's money whereas the Remington would've set him back 1,057! Firearms are less expensive today than then.

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