what is this custom mauser?

[2shotjoe]

there is no serial number, this one is from my grandpa's collection.

let me know if the "micro focus" is better, another setting on my phone's camera.

doing full size rez, i want you to see all the markings i could find.

even the screws are custom made by the same person.

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[kurac]

well, its a sporterized rifle that someone built out of a military mauser, unless the guy stamped his name on it somewhere, you will probably never know who did it.

[Rogerbutthead]

There are some people on Gunboards who can tell the manufacturer of some 98K's by looking at the fonts of the numbers - like the number on the bolt handle.

You might try there if you were looking for the original German manufacturer.

[ScottB]

A picture of the whole rifle would help. Looks like a German commercial mauser to me or at least a German conversion. I'm no expert, but don't see any Waffennamts, so I am guessing commercial.

[kurac]

Did commercial mausers have the stripper clip guide?

[24Sailor]

Pre war Mauser 98 sporting rifle 2.7 is grams of German powder over St. m. G. is Deutch for "steel metal jacket" for the round the rifle was test fired with. That is a beauty with all the game scene ingraving. The bolt looks like a standard K98 bolt (alot of the custom sporting rifles had butter knife bolt handles). Do you know what cartridge its chambered for?

[2shotjoe]

Here you go, best pics I can do. The barrel is hexed, it has some type on rail along the barrel for the sights. you could slap any scope on there. My grandpa told me he put the stock on it, didn't have one when he bought it. he doesn't remember when he bought it.

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[2shotjoe]

Pre war Mauser 98 sporting rifle 2.7 is grams of German powder over St. m. G. is Deutch for "steel metal jacket" for the round the rifle was test fired with. That is a beauty with all the game scene ingraving. The bolt looks like a standard K98 bolt (alot of the custom sporting rifles had butter knife bolt handles). Do you know what cartridge its chambered for?

I think 8mm mauser. the belt action is super smooth, i have never experienced a mauser with such ease before.

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[24Sailor]

I think 8mm mauser. the belt action is super smooth, i have never experienced a mauser with such ease before.

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2.7 grams of powder is correct for 80 to 90% of the military ammo used in 7.92 x 57mm during WWII. So one would assume its a .323 diameter round. Not being an expert, if it were me I'ld have a GS slug the barrel and check the head space before I ventured to the range just to make sure its not .318 or an 8mm - 06 as some rifles were rechambered to. Unless of course grandpa still had some ammo:-)

[gun toting monkeyboy]

2.7 grams of powder is correct for 80 to 90% of the military ammo used in 7.92 x 57mm during WWII. So one would assume its a .323 diameter round. Not being an expert, if it were me I'ld have a GS slug the barrel and check the head space before I ventured to the range just to make sure its not .318 or an 8mm - 06 as some rifles were rechambered to. Unless of course grandpa still had some ammo:-)

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I would get the bore slugged and the chamber cast just to be sure. You not only have the .318" and .323" 8mm bores, but you also have 8x57, 8x60 (a post WWI sporting cartridge) and 8-06 as possible chamberings. The clip guides are sometimes found on sporting guns as well as those made from either new military or surplussed actions. The detail work is nice, but the next time you post something like this, please post a picture of the entire gun first, so we don't have to go wading through it all. I went through half a dozen before I actually got a look at the bolt, which helped me identify it. One other thing. If it doesn't have holes drilled for a scope, don't add them. Yes, it is already sporterized, but it has collector's value as it is. Slapping modern stuff on it would be like adding LEDs in the eyes of the Mona Lisa. Sure it gives it a more modern look. But it destroys much of the value, and looks stupid.

-Mb

[2shotjoe]

2.7 grams of powder is correct for 80 to 90% of the military ammo used in 7.92 x 57mm during WWII. So one would assume its a .323 diameter round. Not being an expert, if it were me I'ld have a GS slug the barrel and check the head space before I ventured to the range just to make sure its not .318 or an 8mm - 06 as some rifles were rechambered to. Unless of course grandpa still had some ammo:-)

When I told him I got a yugo mauser he said, "i got one too!". he pulled it out of his safe and handed it to me. last month he let me borrow it. my 8mm rounds does fit it, but thats all i did.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Any of those 8mm rounds are likely to fit if the chamber is cut for 8x60. The main problem we run into here in the US is the difference in bore sizes. Most people don't know about it, nor do they care. But many of the custom German and Austrian gunsmiths held on to the .318" bores foe many, many years after the Geman military had changed to the .323" bore. US commercial loads for 8x57 use a .321" bullet, and are loaded down at about .30-40 Krag levels in terms of power and pressure for exactly this reason. Get it slugged, and enjoy it. These kinds of professionally made sporting guns are some of the best made mausers of all time.

-Mb

[SVT-40]

That bolt is probably not original to the gun. In fact it's probably a bent GEW98 bolt. Definitely not a K98K bolt as it does not have the proper profile to be a factory bent bolt such as the K98K bolts had. The rifle is a pre war (WWII) sporter based on the commercial proofs. The bolt should have commercial proofs similar to the proofs on the barrel. since it does not it's a replacement bolt.


Commercial proofed bolt markings:


Are there and side wall markings on the left side of the receiver such as these?



Most likely the barreled action was brought back from WWII by a soldier and the bolt was taken from him during transport. Another bolt was given to him upon arrival here in the states. They were not real concerned keeping them matching.

There should also be a serial number on the receiver. Maybe I'm missing it but the photos don't seem to show one. Usually there are proofs near the SN too.

Like this:

[2shotjoe]

I'll be home in 2.5 hours and I'll take a 2nd look.

[2shotjoe]

nope, just some symboles.