Our C&R rifles

[Paulie Lugnuts]

My son and I started collecting milsurp rifles about a year ago. We're still new to this, so I thought I'd post a pic and discriptions and some questions.
The top rifle is a Mosin Nagant 91/30. Its a Tula, 1934. The numbers on the receiver, bolt and magazine match. Th same number is scribed on other parts. I believe its a hex receiver.
Next is a Mauser 98k. Its a Russian capture. Still has tiny swastika stamps on the receiver. The number on the receiver matches a cartouche on the stock. Its a 1942 and has "duv" on the receiver. Anyone know what that means?
Next is a Springfield 1903. The receiver says U S Remington, Model 1903, 3347094. The barrel is dated 12-42, SA with the flaming cannon ball. The rear site is on the front on the receiver and it has a straight stock. Its very clean with almost perfect parkerizing. There are no cartouches on the stock. Can anyone tell me more about it? The guy I bought from inherited it and didn't know much about it.
Finally is a Lee Enfield No.4 Mk. 2. Its all matching numbers, UF 55 A25365 and appears unfired. I guess the Brits made lots of these in the mid 50s and never issued them.
Feel free to add any info or comments.

Thanks, Paul

[bruceflinch]

Nice looking family you have there! I'm a noob at these as well.

[echo1]

Nice starter kit PL. Good to hear about dads & sons & guns oh my. PAX

[Beetle Bailey]

For the Mosin Nagant, the barrel shank is the part of the barrel that has the Tula markings and the date. Below that and above where the bolt handle slides forward and turns is the front top of the receiver. If that front top of the receiver has three flat surfaces, you have a hex receiver. If it is rounded, it's a round receiver. Either way, it should have nicer machining than a wartime rifle.

For the Mauser, "duv" is the factory code for Berlin-Lebecker Maschenfabrik, where your rifle was originally made. The Germans used factory number and letter codes so their enemies would not know the location of the weapons factories.

Dunno much about the Springfield.

The Enfield was made at ROF Fazakerley which is in Liverpool. Should be a great shooter - I have one as well. Yours is not one of the "Irish Contract" serial number rifles (neither is mine) but I don't personally think it's all that important.

Enjoy the rifles, that is a great start to a nice collection.

[timdps]

If the K98 stock serial is on the left side of the butt stock, that is a Russian addition. Original K98 stock serials were on the bottom of the butt stock (pre-war) and in the barrel channel.

Tim

[glennsche]

very nice looking buncha kids you got there! now just get a sling for that k98

for your next purchase, may i strongly recommend you get a swiss K31. its absolutely pristine, and now that you've had a few different types of bolt actions, the straight pull is something you should sink your teeth into. For me, the mosin is the "toyota camry" of bolt actions, the k98 is like a nice bmw, and the enfields, because of their "cock on close" feature, well, they're like driving a nice luxury car with a different type of transmission.

similarly, the k31s with their straight pull are such a different take on the bolt action experience, i highly recommend them.

and they have the sweetest bayonets out there.

and for what its worth, absolutely GORGEOUS enfield... any story behind that?

[NaughtyMonkey]

Me and my dad started just like you did. Our collection has grown from the First M91/30 to about 30 different rifles know. I like it. Its good bonding time with my dad and I'm glad to hear that others are doing it as well. Its fun and there is TONS to learn. Every rifle is unique.

[mauser98k]

If the K98 stock serial is on the left side of the butt stock, that is a Russian addition. Original K98 stock serials were on the bottom of the butt stock (pre-war) and in the barrel channel.

Tim

this is correct. although they kept stamping the serial number on the bottom of the stock until after 1942. the Russians (horizontal) and Yugoslavians (vertical) stamped the serial numbers on the left sides of rifles they captured

also, 1942 was the final year Berlin Lubecker Maschinenfabrik (duv) made 98ks so it's not a common one. good find.

on the front sight, there will be 2 grooves. you can add a sight hood to it if you wish as well.

[Saigon1965]

Alrighty - You got the European theatres covered - Going to venture to the Pacific?

[Paulie Lugnuts]

Thanks for the responses guys. A K31 is on the want list. If anyone has a nice M44 or an Italian Carcano ( everyone I've seen was beat to death) in the Sacramento area, let me know. Right now we're open to any WWII or Korean War rifle. I'm pretty sure thr MN is a hex, I'll check again when I get home. Its really nice for a Big5 $99 special. The Mauser is a little beat up, I'll check for the other serial # on the stock. We do need a sight hood, sling and a bayonet for it. Its still full of cosmoline. My son picked it up the day he left for the Air Force and I told him I won't touch it until he came home on leave.
The Enfield is honestly like new. The guy I bought it from never fired it and said the previous owner never did either. The action on the bolt is very precise, it feels much more modern than the other guns, especially the MN.
Hopefully someone can tell me something about the 1903. The lack of any marking on ther stock is puzzling.

[7.62x63mmUS]

Nice start to a collection but we all know:

[Bhobbs]

Nice M1903. I've been wanting to pick up a M1903a3 for a long time and never came across a good one when I had the cash. Now that I don't have the cash I have seen 2 or 3 in the Marketplace.

[Bhobbs]

Nice start to a collection but we all know:

Haha. This. Everyone needs at least 1 M1 Garand.

[7.62x63mmUS]

My passion for firearms and especially military surplus was kindled by my dad. I hope to pass the love on to my son. Love the 1903!

[mauser98k]

Thanks for the responses guys. A K31 is on the want list. If anyone has a nice M44 or an Italian Carcano ( everyone I've seen was beat to death) in the Sacramento area, let me know. Right now we're open to any WWII or Korean War rifle. I'm pretty sure thr MN is a hex, I'll check again when I get home. Its really nice for a Big5 $99 special. The Mauser is a little beat up, I'll check for the other serial # on the stock. We do need a sight hood, sling and a bayonet for it. Its still full of cosmoline. My son picked it up the day he left for the Air Force and I told him I won't touch it until he came home on leave.
The Enfield is honestly like new. The guy I bought it from never fired it and said the previous owner never did either. The action on the bolt is very precise, it feel much more modern than the other guns, especially the MN.
Hopefully someone can tell me something about the 1903. The lack of any marking on ther stock is puzzling.

the Mosin is definitely a hexagon receiver. Tula didn't start using round receivers until 1936.

the 1903 has a replacement stock. that explains the lack of markings on it. looks to be a war time replacement