Samco Iranian 30.06?

[laika]

I see this is noncorrosive. Is this the modern load that wouldn't work in a Garand without a gas system mod or is this equivalent to the Greek ammo the CMP is selling that is good to go with a Garand?

And, since this would also go down the throat of a springfield M03A3, how is the Iranian as ammo compared to the Greek stuff basically if not considering the Garand's needs?

Thanks

[courteousgavin]

I don't know anything at all about this particular ammo, but Iran did use M1 Garands as their service rifle starting sometime in the 1950's. Supposedly they paid cash for a sizable chunk of the International Harvester M1 production.

[Eljay]

It's Garand-friendly, but it's more expensive than the CMP/Greek ammo and it's Berden primed (so hard to reload), and the CMP ammo comes already on clips. I've seen one or two field reports, and people seem to think it works well enough, but no better than the Greek ammo. At the time the one reason to get it would have been to have something to shoot while waiting for the CMP to ship... but the CMP is shipping ammo within a couple of days. I just don't see the point.

[DarthSean]

If I were you, I wouldn't buy ammo from any place where I wouldn't drink the water.

[CEDaytonaRydr]

If I were you, I wouldn't buy ammo from any place where I wouldn't drink the water.

The stuff he's referring to was made prior to the revolution, when the Shah was the ruler and Iran was our Ally. From most accounts, it's shoots just fine....

[Eljay]

The stuff he's referring to was made prior to the revolution, when the Shah was the ruler and Iran was our Ally. From most accounts, it's shoots just fine....

It does appear to work fine, although it's not clear at all when it was exported and who got the money for it, or if it sells well will they be exporting more of it. Whereas with the Greek/CMP ammo it's clear - the CMP will be supporting shooting and the Greeks will be paying off some of their debts. But that being said, there's just no reason to buy it - it's more expensive than the Greek/CMP ammo, and certainly nobody's claiming it's *better*, so why get it?

[CEDaytonaRydr]

But that being said, there's just no reason to buy it - it's more expensive than the Greek/CMP ammo, and certainly nobody's claiming it's *better*, so why get it?

Yeah, really...

If it's not any cheaper, I would have to agree.

(didn't catch that, the first time around... )

[laika]

Good point. I guess I'm just wondering what will happen when the Greek source runs out. They can't have an unlimited supply; look at the Yugo that disappeared.

Thanks all

[Eljay]

Good point. I guess I'm just wondering what will happen when the Greek source runs out. They can't have an unlimited supply; look at the Yugo that disappeared.

Thanks all

They'll contract with Federal or somebody and buy it in bulk. Commercial M2 ball is expensive partially because they don't make much of it - when the CMP's putting in orders for 50 million rounds at a time hopefully it won't be too ugly. But apparently the Greek brass is very good so I'd a) stock up while you can and b) save the brass with the idea that either you'll be reloading eventually or the price on the brass will only go up if you choose to sell it (I think it's around 10-15 cents/round right now).

[laika]

I've worked enough around chemicals all my life; I don't think reloading and adding more lead exposure would be a good idea but I am saving my brass.

I know my 03a3 is worth it though. I got spoiled with Mosins - rifle or carbine they're cheap to keep. Being frugal minded, I might be more careful and become a better shooter!

[Don the savage]

My understanding is the Iranian m2 is nonmagnetic lead core which is a big deal here in so cal.

[laika]

Oh HECK YEAH that makes the difference. Samco is now my friend in the summer (central CA here, but for the forest we need nonmagnetic).

Thank you, reaching for the credit card right now.

[Toyman321]

My understanding is the Iranian m2 is nonmagnetic lead core which is a big deal here in so cal.

Looks like they also have Iranian 8mm Mauser FMJ lead core... I assume this is copper jacketed so it would also not attract a magnet? I've got a hungry Mauser I need to feed.

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Looks like they also have Iranian 8mm Mauser FMJ lead core... I assume this is copper jacketed so it would also not attract a magnet? I've got a hungry Mauser I need to feed.

The Yugo 8mm is also non-magnetic and at $200 per 900rds, it's hard to beat. I've had very good luck with it...

[user name]

The greek CMP rounds are lead core as well. It's the jacket that has metal in it.

Has anyone confirmed the non-ferrous fmj?