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  • furyous68
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 1878

    Sharps Rifles

    I heard from a local smith that there are some European makers of sharps rifles. Anybody know what companies make these? Are they C&R or should I be posting this in Centerfire Rifles? I've really been wanting something similar to the Shiloh Sharps "Quigley" model in 45-110 or 45-90. I know they're expensive to shoot... but they're beautiful guns!
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    Crunch130
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 750

    Not C&R. Repros generally aren't. Not muzzleloaders. That leaves modern cartridge firearm, despite beng designed for a black powder cartridge. Need an FFL dealer.

    Crunch
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    • #3
      Mike A
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 1209

      google Davide Pedersoli Firearms, Navy Arms, and Aldo Uberti. There are others and one that makes the scaled down "Baby Sharps." Can't remember who, but googling "Baby Sharps" should find them.

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      • #4
        furyous68
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1878

        Thanks fellas!
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        • #5
          Tom-ADC
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 3614

          My Sharps is made in Italy by Pedersoli, very happy with it, bought it from the first owner. The base models for C. Sharps & Shiloh are priced about the same as mine but the USA made ones can get pricey when you do the upgrades but then you have a great looking as well as great shooting rifle.
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          • #6
            Saigon1965
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            • Nov 2003
            • 17276

            The few I saw on GB is quite pricey -

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            • #7
              Jim McCoin
              Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 114

              Try C Sharps Arms, they will build you just about any thing you want. They are in the same town a Shilo Sharps, they also will build you anything you want, but the delivery time could be years.

              Jim
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              • #8
                bruceflinch
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 40127

                Got a real Sharps carbine in 50-70 Govt, I'll sell. $3000.



                Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

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                • #9
                  Tom-ADC
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 3614

                  Looks like Shiloh as a few already made up for sale.http://www.shilohrifle.com/catalog/p...products_id=33
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                  • #10
                    kendog4570
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5180

                    Originally posted by bruceflinch
                    Got a real Sharps carbine in 50-70 Govt, I'll sell. $3000.



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                    • #11
                      1859sharps
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2261

                      first, my 2 cents. even though you might be discussing modern repro sharps, this is the right forum. If not, I am sure the mods will polity correct us.

                      I recently finally got my first 1874 Sharps, a Shiloh. haven't had a chance to shoot it yet as I am still getting the stuff together to load up black powder cartridges for it.

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                      Davide Pedersoli produces muzzle-loading pistols and rifles and related accessories, historical cartridge rifles and modern rifles with lever loading system.



                      I bought mine from Shiloh because I wanted to. they had a good reputation for quality and it was US Made. this was my driving factors. It took about 2 years from order to in my house. couple things drive the wait beyond high demand. I chose the Military model and it is my understanding they don't build as many of those as other models. so if you pick something less common or with more customization you add wait time. the other is when the cut off is made for the next batch of rifles your choice falls into.

                      Shiloh does occasionally have inventory that you can "buy off the shelf", so it doesn't hurt to call an ask if and what might be available.

                      you can also check with this guy


                      apparently he is a Shiloh "stocking dealer" or as close as you can get.

                      I don't know anything about csharps, good, bad or otherwise.

                      as far as pedersoli goes, seems people either hate them or love them. often for emotional reasons over reasons of real substance. exception being the 1859 line of sharps. hey are prone to "gumming" up faster than Shiloh's, but there are a couple gunsmiths out there that specialize in helping you over come this. once over come, they are supposed to be fairly decent rifles.

                      basically it's fairly common for unmodified pedersoli 1859's to need to the breach block face cleaned after about 10 shots give or take a couple shots. Shiloh are reported to shoot longer between cleaning the breach block face, double is the "number" that I seem to remember being about average.

                      the 1874 line of course does not suffer from this issue and will of course run the risk of any mass produced product not being "perfect" 100% of the time. but should not be seen as a automatic knock against them if the company responds correctly if a lemon slips through.

                      as for the quigley rifle, of course you can get one from Shiloh, but if the price is to much for you or the wait too long, pedersoli does make a "quigley" rifle.
                      Last edited by 1859sharps; 06-03-2011, 10:32 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Saigon1965
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                        • Nov 2003
                        • 17276

                        She's a beauty Bruce -

                        Originally posted by bruceflinch
                        Got a real Sharps carbine in 50-70 Govt, I'll sell. $3000.

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                        • #13
                          furyous68
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1878

                          I was just watching Legend of the Falls... is that a Sharps the ranch hand uses to "snipe" the deputy during the revenge sequence towards the end?

                          I love the rifles. Thanks for all the info guys! I think I'm going to save my pennies for a Shilo Quigly w/ the Octagonal Heavy barrel. Wasn't the movie rifle an odd caliber? I remember the scene @ the general store where he tells the owner that a bullet from a .303 will work for the reloads.
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                          • #14
                            howdy62
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 26

                            I have a Garrett Arms reproduction I have never shot. I have purchased a box of commercial ammo and reloaded a few of my own rounds. Would love to pick someones brains about duplex loads and smokeless loads for a 50-70 sharps.

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                            • #15
                              1859sharps
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2261

                              Originally posted by furyous68
                              Wasn't the movie rifle an odd caliber?
                              Not sure about the sub a 303. If memory serves 303 wasn't around until 1888ish. and I am not entirely sure when quigly took place. post civil war clearly probably mid 1870's.

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