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  • bumpo628
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1142

    C&R shipping question

    I have a question about who can sign for a C&R gun.

    On the form, there is a "shipping address" that can be different than your residence. I am never home during business hours, so I was wondering if I could have a gun shipped to my in-laws house. If I list them as the shipping address, can they receive the gun for me? Or do I have to receive it myself?
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    Mssr. Eleganté
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10401

    Originally posted by bumpo628
    ...On the form, there is a "shipping address" that can be different than your residence...
    Are you talking about the C&R FFL application? An FFL can have a separate mailing address that is different from the premises address. The premises address is where you are supposed to keep you collection and your bound book. Your mailing address is where ATF will send any mail to you.

    You can use your inlaws address as a mailing address, but that means everything ATF mails to you will go to that address. Many vendors will have no problem shipping firearms to either the mailing address or the premises address on your license. But some vendors will only ship to your premises address.
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      bumpo628
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1142

      Are you talking about the C&R FFL application? An FFL can have a separate mailing address that is different from the premises address. The premises address is where you are supposed to keep you collection and your bound book. Your mailing address is where ATF will send any mail to you.

      You can use your inlaws address as a mailing address, but that means everything ATF mails to you will go to that address. Many vendors will have no problem shipping firearms to either the mailing address or the premises address on your license. But some vendors will only ship to your premises address.
      Okay, so far so good.
      Is there any rule that says that *I* alone must sign for a firearm, or can it be any adult?
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        Mssr. Eleganté
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        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        Originally posted by bumpo628
        Okay, so far so good.
        Is there any rule that says that *I* alone must sign for a firearm, or can it be any adult?
        It's not really spelled out in the law, but ATF has said regarding similar issues that somebody who can't legally take possession of a particular firearm can sign for the firearm and leave it for the authorized person to actually open the package. The spouses of Licensed Collectors probably sign for over 50% of all shipments made to C&R FFLs.
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          bumpo628
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1142

          It's not really spelled out in the law, but ATF has said regarding similar issues that somebody who can't legally take possession of a particular firearm can sign for the firearm and leave it for the authorized person to actually open the package. The spouses of Licensed Collectors probably sign for over 50% of all shipments made to C&R FFLs.
          Thanks a lot for the replies. I can give them a call to double-check.
          Do you have a link for your ATF example?
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            Mssr. Eleganté
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            • Oct 2005
            • 10401

            Originally posted by bumpo628
            ...Do you have a link for your ATF example?
            The example I'm thinking of is when you ship a firearm to yourself, care of another person out of state. ATF mentions this on their FAQ page...



            Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?

            Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
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              bumpo628
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1142

              Great. I appreciate all your help.
              Ronald Reagan once said that the most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
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