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  • tempdrummer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 833

    1897 Barrel Safe to Shoot?

    I have a 1908 Winchester 1897 take down 12ga. Its got a 20" barrel. Over the (many) years of use, its worn a nice groove into the barrel from the take down pin/barrel band. The groove is approx 5" from the tip of the barrel.

    I have shot it, and it works great.

    What do you guys say? good to go still?


  • #2
    Asphodel
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1974

    drummer,

    If that barrel were mine, I'd not hesitate to fire it. I would, however, inspect the action closely, to verify good lockup.

    I would, just as a matter of prudence with a century-old gun, use only relatively light loads. such as modern 'trap loads'.

    The standard 12ga. rounds which were available from Winchester and other ammunition manufacturers when that gun was new were, according to the old catalogues, significantly less powerful loadings than were the later 'Super-X' and similar high performance hunting loads.

    cheers

    Carla

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    • #3
      pullnshoot25
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 8068

      Bring that beast to bear and kill some pigeons!

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      • #4
        Brd_Hntr
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Jun 2008
        • 213

        Ouch. Those look deep. I would have a gunsmith check that before I fired it. Why take a chance on it?
        _______________________________________
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        -Brd_Hntr

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        • #5
          Bigdaa
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 261

          Originally posted by Brd_Hntr
          Ouch. Those look deep. I would have a gunsmith check that before I fired it. Why take a chance on it?
          I would need to inspect the whole gun and not just the inflicted area. Having said that, I'm +1 with Brd-Hntr.
          Got it LDH?

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          • #6
            TMC
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2348

            At 5" from the muzzle it won't be an issue. The highest pressure is at the chamber, by the muzzle the pressure has lowered considerably and will not cause the barrel damage.

            The one area with the large depression may, in time, develop a pin hole but that is no more a danger than the ported barrel on my 525. A good smith could weld that up and smooth is out.
            where are my pistol mags?

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            • #7
              tempdrummer
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 833

              Thanks for the help and opinions everyone. It's too much fun to not fire but better safe than sorry.

              How would I inspect the action? What would I look for? Maybe that's something gunsmith needs to do?

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              • #8
                TRAP55
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5536

                tempdrummer, if that's an original 20" bbl, it should be cyl bore. I can't see how the takedown pin would have done that.
                If were me, I wouldn't shoot it. Best case it will develop a hole there and blow out. Worse case is a catastrophic separation.
                If that barrel was choked, it would have let go already.

                Do you have any shotgun barrels for sale? Do you know any one who has any shotgun barrels for sale? I am buying shotgun barrels for resale. One barrel or 100 barrels, please send copy of shotgun barrel inventory, you want to sell with prices.
                Last edited by TRAP55; 03-21-2011, 4:51 PM.

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                • #9
                  tempdrummer
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 833

                  It's actually a cut down barrel. God knows when it was cut down. The barrel is marked full.

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                  • #10
                    tempdrummer
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 833

                    Also I believe it's the barrel band that made that not the takedown pin.

                    When the gun is assembled that groove is covered by the barrel band. Hence why I didn't see it when I bought it. Doh!

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                    • #11
                      metalliman545
                      Banned
                      • May 2010
                      • 1257

                      Should be fine, mines a 1918 fired 25 rounds of 00buckshot through it and about 100 federal "max dram" bird shot with noooooo problem. Though I do need to clean the ejector a lil more. If I rack too fast to eject the round slides all the way back and gets stuck in the ejection port. Do it slow ejects fine. When loading it if I do it too fast it'll kick the round out. Again, I do it slow and it feeds properly.

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