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  • laika
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 384

    FFL 3 form confusion

    I asked for an FFL3 application from my local small town BATF office some months ago and he sent me 2 copies. I filled one in, sent it in and never heard from it again.

    A few weeks ago I sent in the 2nd copy. I hand carried a copy of it to my police department and cleared it with them. I got a post office money order, no problems with a credit card or anything if that was the case.

    Just got it back. It was returned to sender. I checked the address on my form and it should have been OK.

    Then I checked the form and it does NOT match the form on the sticky pdf above. It is a Department of the Treasury Bureau of A.T.F. Application for Licence (Collector of Curio and Relics) and the mailing address listed is:

    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
    PO Box 845219
    Dallas, Texas 75284-5219.

    What is up? Slightly different form to the one above; different address and state to be sent to. Am I failing an IQ test?

    I NEED MY FFL3
    Originally posted by Rally Dave
    Haha....too much AR shooting and you become a wennie!
    The cure: Buy a Mosin M44 and shoot 100 rounds as fast as you can. When you can handle that, you are good to go.
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    emcon5
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3347

    That sticky needs to go away, since ATF has their own PDF of the form now.

    The address is on the form:

    Instruction Sheet for ATF Form 7CR (5310.16) Detach this instruction sheet before submitting your application. Application is to be Submitted With Fee to:

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
    P.O. Box 409567
    Atlanta, GA 30384-9567

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    • #3
      laika
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 384

      Good point on the sticky.

      Just compared my form again. The OMB number is 1512-0518 and the one on the sticky is 1140-0038. I DID get it from my local small town BATF.

      Is mine obsolete, acceptable, newer, a figment of my BATF office's imagination?

      Thanks for any replies and thanks for the above!
      Originally posted by Rally Dave
      Haha....too much AR shooting and you become a wennie!
      The cure: Buy a Mosin M44 and shoot 100 rounds as fast as you can. When you can handle that, you are good to go.
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      • #4
        Croweman08
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 590

        sent it to the wrong place. send it to the atlanta address on the back of the form at the top.
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        • #5
          hcbr
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 4733

          go to the site, order the FFL Green forms, it's on the applications link i believe. Have them send it to you directly. The Money order goes to the ATF (not local pd) along with the copy that says ATF on the bottom in red. The second copy should have the payment section blanked out and read on the bottom in red CLEO which should be addressed to the chief of police.

          Hope that helps! the ATF sent me the form in one week, although i heard stories where people get them and it takes almost a month!
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          • #6
            laika
            Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 384

            Well since the form they sent me does look different and have a different code, I printed out the newer one and sent it off with my money order. Hope a PDF is OK; I can't get anything modern out of my town I am sure.

            Sent a new copy to my CLEO with an explanation.

            I should have had this in November, now I know - my office sent me obsolete forms. Posting this in case someone does a search sometime.

            Thank you both for your kind suggestions.
            Originally posted by Rally Dave
            Haha....too much AR shooting and you become a wennie!
            The cure: Buy a Mosin M44 and shoot 100 rounds as fast as you can. When you can handle that, you are good to go.
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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Seńor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by hcbr
              go to the site, order the FFL Green forms, it's on the applications link i believe.
              No need anymore.

              The form is now downloadable, and you can even complete the application on your PC and print it, sign it, and mail it to the ATF and a copy to your CLEO.


              And if anyone listed as "responsible person" is a non-resident alien, you'll also need:



              And while you're at it... why not eliminate that pesky 10-day wait for your C&Rs? http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/coeapp.pdf
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #8
                laika
                Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 384

                That's my next fun step! Once I get my ffl3 that is.

                Thank you for the links.
                Originally posted by Rally Dave
                Haha....too much AR shooting and you become a wennie!
                The cure: Buy a Mosin M44 and shoot 100 rounds as fast as you can. When you can handle that, you are good to go.
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                • #9
                  Mssr. Eleganté
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 10401

                  With the address in Dallas, that means the first form you got was about 10 years old. They used to forward the applications from Dallas to Atlanta for a few years after the move, but now they just return them to sender.
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                  • #10
                    laika
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 384

                    Santa Maria - always retro. The (former) home of Michael Jackson . . . Good job Santa Maria BATF!
                    Originally posted by Rally Dave
                    Haha....too much AR shooting and you become a wennie!
                    The cure: Buy a Mosin M44 and shoot 100 rounds as fast as you can. When you can handle that, you are good to go.
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