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  • BayAreaShooter
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 5054

    I need C&R information quick.

    Well I am going to be selling a Steyr M95. It is to my understanding that there is no FFL required to make the transaction and all Steyr M95's are considered a C&R. Please correct me if I am wrong. I DO NOT have a 03 FFL C&R. I am planning on getting a copy of his I.D. and a written statement that says he is not restricted from purchasing Firearms or Ammunition as well as all the information of the gun. Make, Model, Caliber, ECT. Is there anything else I need to know. Is there anyone out there that might have a Template for this transaction. Thank you in advance.
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    TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    Basically, all you need to do is make sure the buyer is 18+ years old and ask if they can legally purchase a firearm. The rest of the information and bill of sale is good to have, but not legally required. As long as the rifle is 50+ years old, your good to go.


    If you want to do a bill of sale, just google "firearms bill of sale" and several different forms are available. Here is one example. http://www.kcarmstrader.com/billofsale.pdf


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    • #3
      Mssr. Eleganté
      Blue Blaze Irregular
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 10401

      You also need to make sure the buyer is a California resident.
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      • #4
        pingpong
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2008
        • 5450

        I thought the seller needs to have a FFL03 to bypass going through an FFL01...
        Originally posted by luchador768
        We also had a lot of wannabe gangsters putting the display pistols down thier pants to "try them on.". If you bought a display handgun from the Riverside Turners in the 1990's there's a greater than average chance that there is cholo crotch on it.

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        • #5
          BayAreaShooter
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 5054

          Originally posted by pingpong
          I thought the seller needs to have a FFL03 to bypass going through an FFL01...
          I don't think so but i'm not 100% positive.
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          • #6
            Markus
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 1762

            Longarms over 50 years of age do not require a FFL 01 to transfer between two California residents as long as the seller is not an FFL 01 as well then you have to dros it. An FFL 03 allows you to order c&r guns from out of state and have them delivered to your house.

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            • #7
              BayAreaShooter
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 5054

              Originally posted by Markus
              Longarms over 50 years of age do not require a FFL 01 to transfer between two California residents as long as the seller is not an FFL 01 as well then you have to dros it. An FFL 03 allows you to order c&r guns from out of state and have them delivered to your house.
              So two California residents that do not have a FFL 01 or a FFL 03 can legally sell or purchase a C&R eligible long gun as a cash and carry? Am I correct in saying this?
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              • #8
                stitchnicklas
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2010
                • 7091

                Originally posted by BayAreaShooter
                So two California residents that do not have a FFL 01 or a FFL 03 can legally sell or purchase a C&R eligible long gun as a cash and carry? Am I correct in saying this?
                Yes...

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                • #9
                  BayAreaShooter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 5054

                  Thank you everyone for the great input.
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                  • #10
                    mdouglas1980
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 871

                    Originally posted by BayAreaShooter
                    So two California residents that do not have a FFL 01 or a FFL 03 can legally sell or purchase a C&R eligible long gun as a cash and carry? Am I correct in saying this?
                    A long gun that is 50+ years old requires no Private Party Transer & DROS through an 01 FFL. It is cash and carry. be careful when you get into saying C&R because C&R doesn't always mean cash and carry, for there are times that something is C&R and is not cash and carry....

                    Yes when selling a cash and carry long gun you just need to make sure the buyer is 18 or older and ask them if they are legal to own firearms/ammunition. It's not a bad idea to write a release of this sort to have them sign too.

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                    • #11
                      BayAreaShooter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 5054

                      Originally posted by mdouglas1980
                      A long gun that is 50+ years old requires no Private Party Transer & DROS through an 01 FFL. It is cash and carry. be careful when you get into saying C&R because C&R doesn't always mean cash and carry, for there are times that something is C&R and is not cash and carry....

                      Yes when selling a cash and carry long gun you just need to make sure the buyer is 18 or older and ask them if they are legal to own firearms/ammunition. It's not a bad idea to write a release of this sort to have them sign too.
                      Thank you. I wrote up an agreement that he was not restricted from owning firearms or ammunition and all the specifics of the firearm. I also got a copy of his drivers license. We both signed the agreement and went our separate ways.
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                      • #12
                        hk91666
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1945

                        Originally posted by mdouglas1980
                        A long gun that is 50+ years old requires no Private Party Transer & DROS through an 01 FFL. It is cash and carry. be careful when you get into saying C&R because C&R doesn't always mean cash and carry, for there are times that something is C&R and is not cash and carry....

                        Yes when selling a cash and carry long gun you just need to make sure the buyer is 18 or older and ask them if they are legal to own firearms/ammunition. It's not a bad idea to write a release of this sort to have them sign too.
                        I might add if one of the seller/buyer is 03FFl they need info for the bound book
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