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  • mdouglas1980
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 871

    DOJ CFLC system & C&R??

    I was looking at buying a 1952 Tula SKS from a vendor off gunbroker and I was asked if I was registered with the CFLC system?? I wasn't aware that as a private collector that I needed to be registered with the CFLC system. I thought this was only for an 01 FFL engaged in a business??
    Could anyone help me cite PC for this? As I would like to buy this SKS from this vendor.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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    TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    Here are a couple of links with info showing that C&R rifles and 03 FFL's are exempt from CFLC. They also shows that private parties and 03 FFL's are exempt when shipping to CA.

    http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls/2008-BOF-01.pdf (See the first paragraph on page two).

    http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/cflcfaqs.php (#4)
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    Last edited by TRICKSTER; 01-15-2011, 12:44 PM.


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    • #3
      halifax
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4440

      Originally posted by mdouglas1980
      I was looking at buying a 1952 Tula SKS from a vendor off gunbroker and I was asked if I was registered with the CFLC system?? I wasn't aware that as a private collector that I needed to be registered with the CFLC system. I thought this was only for an 01 FFL engaged in a business??
      Could anyone help me cite PC for this? As I would like to buy this SKS from this vendor.

      Thanks,
      Mike
      You are correct.

      CFLC FAQ #4
      Jim


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      • #4
        mdouglas1980
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 871

        that's what I thought but the dealer from out of state has to obtain a CFLC # before shipping it to me right?

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        • #5
          mdouglas1980
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 871

          or since it's C&R do they need to obtain a #? since it says on the application that curio or relic long guns are excluded from this. correct?

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          • #6
            TRICKSTER
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 12438

            Originally posted by mdouglas1980
            that's what I thought but the dealer from out of state has to obtain a CFLC # before shipping it to me right?
            No, if you have an 03 FFL, you do not fall under the CFLC requirements.
            No CFLC number is required period. For anyone shipping a C&R long gun to an 03 FFL in CA, there is no CFLC required.

            It is this simple. You send him a signed copy of your 03 FFL and payment. He sends you the rifle. If you have an 03 FFL, it's that simple. It doesn't matter what kind of FFL the other guy has. You as an 03 FFL do not fall under the CFLC requirements.
            Last edited by TRICKSTER; 01-15-2011, 1:45 PM.


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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Seņor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by mdouglas1980
              I was looking at buying a 1952 Tula SKS from a vendor off gunbroker and I was asked if I was registered with the CFLC system?? I wasn't aware that as a private collector that I needed to be registered with the CFLC system. I thought this was only for an 01 FFL engaged in a business??
              Could anyone help me cite PC for this? As I would like to buy this SKS from this vendor.

              Thanks,
              Mike
              Two failures on the vendor's part.
              1 - 03FFL are exempt from CFLC requirements.
              2 - It is the SHIPPER that is required to be in the CFLC system.

              If the vendor is an 01/02/07, he must be in the system if he is shipping to a California 01/02/07.
              Last edited by Cokebottle; 01-15-2011, 2:27 PM.
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              • #8
                hifiguns
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 269

                Widener's will only accept orders from FFL03 and FFL06 in California. No CA FFL01's can purchase firearms from Widener's. They refuse to participate in the CFLC system.

                Widener's Reloading and Shooting Supply has ammo and reloading supplies for sale at cheap prices. Find out why we're the best deal on the web today!

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                • #9
                  mdouglas1980
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 871

                  cool thanks. So since it's a Curio long gun then there's no need for him to obtain a CFLC number before he ships it to me after I send him a signed copy of my license then. Actually this vendor has said that he was registered with the CFLC too.

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                  • #10
                    Cokebottle
                    Seņor Member
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by mdouglas1980
                    cool thanks. So since it's a Curio long gun then there's no need for him to obtain a CFLC number before he ships it to me after I send him a signed copy of my license then. Actually this vendor has said that he was registered with the CFLC too.
                    Correct.

                    He only needs to be in the CFLC if he is a dealer shipping to a California dealer.

                    California 03 FFLs do not need to be in the CFLC system.
                    - Rich

                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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