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  • #31
    Dr. Pepper
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 271

    You know the stupid thing was that I had plenty of gun oil, but I wanted to give WD-40 a try. "I know, it was stupid." It's not that shooting it did nothing; it removed the rust from the lands, just not the groves. I am sure it is not pitted, because the only way I can see it is with a flashlight pointed down the muzzle. Then I see steaks of that unmistakable orange. When I put the light down the breach I can't even tell it's there.
    I will update everyone as soon as I can get home to clean it, but I think that I will be able to remove it with the bronze brush and the CLP. When I tried to remove it before, I did not have a dry bore and I was using a nylon brush. Basically, I was doing it wrong. I did not recognize these errors at the time, so it scarred me when I wasn't able to remove the rust. I remember when my 98 barrel rusted from improper cleaning after shooting corrosive ammunition, I was able to remove the rust. Though, now that I think about it, I used a brass brush and the bore was bone dry. It all kinda makes sense when I put it together.
    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed."-Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    • #32
      Orlando
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 1827

      Probably not rust but copper

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      • #33
        Alex$
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 1233

        see PM

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        • #34
          otteray
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 3246

          I used brake cleaner until I found out how harmful it can be to humans and pets.
          Read the MSDS.
          Use it with caution.
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          • #35
            rojocorsa
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2008
            • 9139

            MSDS?


            As far as dangerous chemicals, this is the reason why I want to try M-Pro7, which is supposed to be non-toxic.
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            "...and an old German guy said there was a bit of an unsaid joke about the Nazi salute; apparently when they clicked their heels and raised their arm up in the air in a Nazi salute, they were saying, "we're in this much s___."

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            • #36
              Alex$
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 1233

              Originally posted by rojocorsa
              MSDS?


              As far as dangerous chemicals, this is the reason why I want to try M-Pro7, which is supposed to be non-toxic.
              For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.


              See Wikipedia entry

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              • #37
                Mickey D
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 3502

                WD-40 was designed to be a water dispersant, not for surface protection. It will turn to a varnish like substance when left in guns or similar places.

                Kroil is great for removing rust and breaking free rusted parts. It also wasn't designed for surface protection.

                Use a good gun oil.
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                ***Mature Up***

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                • #38
                  Fate
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 9545

                  Originally posted by Orlando
                  Probably not rust but copper
                  I was wondering this too. Are you sure it's rust and not just copper fouling?
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                  , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                  • #39
                    rojocorsa
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9139

                    I saw his gun, [and though it was honestly hard to tell since getting light inside the bore isn't the easiest thing], it looked like there were distinctive patterns that aren't the straight lines of copper fouling.

                    I guess it wouldn't hurt for Dr. Pepper to double-check again, but I think he would already be sure of it--by this point in time. The WD-40 incident didn't exactly happen last night.
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                    7-6-2 FTMFW!

                    "...and an old German guy said there was a bit of an unsaid joke about the Nazi salute; apparently when they clicked their heels and raised their arm up in the air in a Nazi salute, they were saying, "we're in this much s___."

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                    • #40
                      Bigtwin
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 2639

                      Originally posted by Orlando
                      Ever use it and notice the next day whatever you sprayed it on is dry?
                      .
                      No I have'nt! I use WD40 on engine blocks that I have torn down, spray Wd40 on liberally and the block still has no rust several weeks later!

                      Then again I don't use automotive products on my firearms or vise versa!
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                      • #41
                        Interloper
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2680

                        Originally posted by Bigtwin
                        No I have'nt! I use WD40 on engine blocks that I have torn down, spray Wd40 on liberally and the block still has no rust several weeks later!

                        Then again I don't use automotive products on my firearms or vise versa!
                        Now ya done it!
                        My favorite oil for...just about anything, guns included, is half ATF & half 15w-40.

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                        • #42
                          Dr. Pepper
                          Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 271

                          I think that I might not have a pitted barrel! To me the evidence seems to point to the contrary. I got the materials to clean my bore a couple of weeks ago, and then proceeded clean it. I let it sit in CLP for about 4 hours, then I dried out the barrel with by bore snake and some patches, then I scrubbed the hell out of it. I was shocked to find that no rust particulate came out, not a spec, which is what i gave experienced in the past with my Mosin and Mauser. I put the light down the muzzle and peered inside; I still saw the streaks, but they appeared more shiny than before. With some time the color dulled to that of a circulated penny. I looked at the barrel with the light at the breach, and without the color, I could not tell anything was there, no pitting or curious textures. Combined that with no growth, and a green color on the used patches when I attempted to clean it with hoppes out of desperation, and I think these streaks may just be copper deposits. I had my Friend Rojocorsa take a look for a second opinion, and he came to the same conclusion.
                          "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed."-Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                          • #43
                            Reductio
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 1923

                            The streaks are almost certainly copper deposits. For future use, get some of THIS, run a wet patch down the bore, let it sit for 20-30 minutes, dry, then another soak. My Garand is rather similar in that it really shows that copper.
                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            Ah, the old "form over function" argument. I guess some people would rather be seen with a hot blonde who won't put out than with a "Neil 8" who will make you .

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                            • #44
                              Dr. Pepper
                              Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 271

                              Originally posted by Reductio
                              The streaks are almost certainly copper deposits. For future use, get some of THIS, run a wet patch down the bore, let it sit for 20-30 minutes, dry, then another soak. My Garand is rather similar in that it really shows that copper.
                              Sounds good; I'll have to get some of that after I buy my Greek surplus.
                              "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed."-Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                              • #45
                                rojocorsa
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9139

                                It's copper alright.
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                                "...and an old German guy said there was a bit of an unsaid joke about the Nazi salute; apparently when they clicked their heels and raised their arm up in the air in a Nazi salute, they were saying, "we're in this much s___."

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