Sporterized

[usctrojan]

I was reading the definition of sporterized on calguns... I am pretty confident this constitutes sporterized because he refinished the gun with a historically inaccurate finish. He chromed (or something similar) parts.

http://s926.photobucket.com/albums/ad101/usctrojan34/Painters%20Guns%20For%20Sale/

Can somebody clarify?

[rojocorsa]

Which of the rifles are you talking about?

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Sporterizing refers to removing any 'excess' furniture to make a surplus rifle look like a model 70, or something similar. Chroming a milsurp is straight pimping.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

With some rifles "in the white" (no finish at all) is the correct finish for certain parts. Examples include the bolts on Yugo Mausers and the bolts/receivers of M1909 Argentine Mausers.

[usctrojan]

If somebody was looking to sell guns that have been refinished/cleaned up how would that effect the value? The guns I find on Gun Broker tend to not be touched or totally redone.

Argentinian Mauser – 1891- Berlin Manufacture -Matching Numbers (Mauser with nothing on butt)
Argentinian Mauser - 1909 Chromed? receiver and bolt only
Turkish Mauser – 1947 NOT MATCHING (Mauser with take down hole on nd)
Carl Gustafs Mauser – 1919 NOT MATCHING Numbers Sling (picture that has light wood stock with sling)

[Milsurp Collector]

Argentinian Mauser - 1909 Chromed? receiver and bolt only

http://www.ignomini.com/guns/riflepage1.html

[usctrojan]

http://www.ignomini.com/guns/riflepage1.html

Should I expect to see white metal on the barrel bands, and the barrel itself too? I.e. The Turkish Mauser?

Sorry if the questions are obvious... Just have little experience with Mausers.

[Milsurp Collector]

Should I expect to see white metal on the barrel bands, and the barrel itself too? I.e. The Turkish Mauser?

No, usually only the receiver, bolt and bayonet lug. It might be that the blued finish was worn and a previous owner decided to polish those other parts too.
More info about Turkish Mausers http://www.turkmauser.com/models.aspx

If somebody was looking to sell guns that have been refinished/cleaned up how would that effect the value?

There is a difference between cleaning up and refinishing. Cleaning up i.e. carefully removing dirt, cosmoline, rust, grime, etc. without damaging the original finish or refinishing generally increases value (a little). Refinishing or removing the original finish generally decreases value, with few exceptions.

[knucklehead0202]

pimpin' ain't easy i hear...

[edgerly779]

If the forend of a 1917 enfield is shortened does that remove the c & r status by law.? atf says new sights/ drill & tap for scope/ mounting scope does not remove c & r

[bigstick61]

If the forend of a 1917 enfield is shortened does that remove the c & r status by law.? atf says new sights/ drill & tap for scope/ mounting scope does not remove c & r

I always thought that there was a catch-all category for C&Rs based only on age which means that if one had a modified milsurp rifle over that age it was still C&R whereas a newer milsurp C&R would no longer be considered one.

[toby]

Sporterizing came to term way back when these guns and others were to be found for $15-$20 and up and they were cut down on the stocks and barrels for hunting use and also drilled and tapped for scope bases and or peep sites, so they went from a Military type weapon to a more user friendly deer rifle for less $$ than the average factory made deer rifle. Springfields were the favorites, Mausers were used for custom creations

[Interloper]

It's still C&R. They're all still C&R. I don't know why we keep splitting hairs about this.