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as per an email chain:
now, i'll admit that i'm uncertain of knife law in CA, but I'm trying to outfit several of my C&R pieces in a display and want to put the proper bayonet there. as place holders until I track down some originals, i'm going to put a reproduction as an interim piece.
i've never had trouble ordering bayonets before, any opinions?
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so it appears that daggers are regulated if you are imprisoned, concealing it, or bring it to school. am i wrong?
Unfortunately, because of the gray area regarding legal definitions of certain items, our company policy is such that most, if not all, “bayonets” are considered to be “daggers,” which are restricted in CA. If, however, you can find a specific definition that proves that we should not consider bayonets as daggers (and can prove it), I would be happy to consider requesting a change in our policy.
i've never had trouble ordering bayonets before, any opinions?
I sent this in response, but haven't heard back
Hi,
CPC 626.10 (h) defines a dagger as
“a knife or other instrument with or without a handguard that is
capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great
bodily injury or death.”
And (a) and (b) only apply if the “dagger” is brought onto school property.
CPC 4502 (a)(b)(c) has no such definition, but only applies to those who are incarcerated in a penal institution.
Probably the only one that may apply is CPC 12020 (a)(4) which explicitly refers to concealing it. CPC 12020 (a)(1) sets forth a list of import bans to include:
“any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
sandclub, sap, or sandbag.”
Note the lack of any mention of a “dagger” except in (4). Taking the definition of CPC 626.10 (h), one can only come to the conclusion that concealing a bayonet is a crime of a concealed weapon.
Further, CPC 12020 (c)(24) agrees with the definition of “dagger” as noted in CPC 626.10 (h):
“(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife
or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of
ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury
or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.”
CPC 12028 (a) reinforces the “concealment” issue of a dagger.
CPC 626.10 (h) defines a dagger as
“a knife or other instrument with or without a handguard that is
capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great
bodily injury or death.”
And (a) and (b) only apply if the “dagger” is brought onto school property.
CPC 4502 (a)(b)(c) has no such definition, but only applies to those who are incarcerated in a penal institution.
Probably the only one that may apply is CPC 12020 (a)(4) which explicitly refers to concealing it. CPC 12020 (a)(1) sets forth a list of import bans to include:
“any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
sandclub, sap, or sandbag.”
Note the lack of any mention of a “dagger” except in (4). Taking the definition of CPC 626.10 (h), one can only come to the conclusion that concealing a bayonet is a crime of a concealed weapon.
Further, CPC 12020 (c)(24) agrees with the definition of “dagger” as noted in CPC 626.10 (h):
“(24) As used in this section, a "dirk" or "dagger" means a knife
or other instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of
ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury
or death. A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that is not
prohibited by Section 653k, or a pocketknife is capable of ready use
as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or death
only if the blade of the knife is exposed and locked into position.”
CPC 12028 (a) reinforces the “concealment” issue of a dagger.
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