Correct Bayonet for Enfield

[Robidouxs]

Do anyone know the correct period bayonet for a No 4 MK 1 Enfield?

[Captain Cogle]

[Robidouxs]

Is that the No 4 Mk 2 spike Bayonet?

[Captain Cogle]

They should fit on both guns. They should be able to fit the 07 Bayonet as well.

Most useless bayonet ever invented. The Brits and Scots in WW2 hated them with a passion.

[Woodymyster]

Most useless bayonet ever invented.

Well I think it makes a great tent stake

[Captain Cogle]

Well I think it makes a great tent stake

You got me there. Not a bad nose picker either. Even works as an obscene boner gag to hide up under our Kilts though its pathetically short for even that.

[Milsurp Collector]

Most useless bayonet ever invented.

Actually, it takes second place to the M1903 rod bayonet as the most useless bayonet ever invented.




President Theodore Roosevelt personally demonstrated the flimsy weakness of the rod bayonet. Roosevelt had someone hold the new M1903 with the rod bayonet extended. Roosevelt then took another rifle with a knife bayonet and snapped the rod bayonet off with his knife bayonet-equipped rifle. He wrote a letter to the Secretary of War describing the rod bayonet as "... about as poor an invention as I ever saw."

[Captain Cogle]

Well you got that right. Excuse me for overstating. Nit picking is rather unnecessary.

[gunboat]

Ah yes -- the winkle pin!

[marysdad]

The No. 4 spike bayonet was the only bayonet actually used during World War II. There is no relationship between the various No. 4 bayonets (Mk. I, Mk. II, Mk. II*, and Mk. III) and the various No 4 rifles (Mk. I, Mk. I*, and Mk. II). Any combination is historically correct. Savage and Longbranch were the only WW II makers of both No. 4 rifles and No. 4 bayonets.

The No. 7 Mk. I/L and No. 9 Mk. I bayonets were both post-war. The No. 9 Mk. I bayonet was actually issued with the No. 4 rifle, but the No. 7 Mk. I/L was not (save for ceremonial use).

My site has pages dedicated to both the No. 4 spike bayonet and the No. 9 bayonet, both of which provide some historical info that may help you decide which is most correct from your standpoint.

[mosinnagantm9130]

The No. 4 spike bayonet was the only bayonet actually used during World War II.

I hope you are talking about British bayos, as the Soviets, Finns, Japanese, Germans, and Americans may have a problem with that....

[smle-man]

The spike bayonet was designed to penetrate German greatcoats. The blade bayonet for the #1mk3 apparently had issues with this during the great war. However bayonets are used more as a tool than a weapon and the spike bayonet is pretty poor for chopping wood, digging holes, and opening ration tins.

The #4mk1* with the two position rear sight was intended to be fired with the bayonet attached when firing at various ranges. attaching and removing the bayonet regulated the sights for various ranges. Unfortunately few soldiers could remember the formula and just kept the bayonet on when in combat.

[Captain Cogle]

The No. 4 spike bayonet was the only bayonet actually used during World War II. There is no relationship between the various No. 4 bayonets (Mk. I, Mk. II, Mk. II*, and Mk. III) and the various No 4 rifles (Mk. I, Mk. I*, and Mk. II). Any combination is historically correct. Savage and Longbranch were the only WW II makers of both No. 4 rifles and No. 4 bayonets.

The No. 7 Mk. I/L and No. 9 Mk. I bayonets were both post-war. The No. 9 Mk. I bayonet was actually issued with the No. 4 rifle, but the No. 7 Mk. I/L was not (save for ceremonial use).

My site has pages dedicated to both the No. 4 spike bayonet and the No. 9 bayonet, both of which provide some historical info that may help you decide which is most correct from your standpoint.

You are mistaken about the spike being the only bayonet used by Brit troops in WW2.

The 1907 Bayonet was still floating around in both its original form and in a cut down version.

[smle-man]

The #4 rifle wasn't in wide distribution until 1943 and many Commonwealth contries such as Australia, New Zealand, India, and South Africa fought the length of the war with the #1mkIII rifle and corresponding bayonets.

[marysdad]

What I meant to convey was that the No. 4 spike bayonet was the only bayonet Britain used with the No. 4 rifle, during World War II. Of course, Britain used other bayonets, with other rifles. Sorry for the confusion.