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  • pullnshoot25
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 8068

    Finnish P-27 restoration project

    Cross-posted at 7.62x54r.net

    So I got a Finnish P-27 not too long ago was unfortunately touched by the vile hand of an ignorant Bubba. Since I love Mosins and I know this is a fairly rare one I decided to restore it as much as I possibly can and I have been working with bplvr on it. Luckily, Bubba only sanded down (instead of actual butchering or hacking up) the stock and none of the metal parts have changed.

    In the process of all this, bplvr and I discovered a few little things...

    1) Bubba did not remove the action from the stock when refinishing. This left a bunch of wood shavings on the inside of the stock.
    2) The sling escutcheon screws are made of really, really crappy steel, almost like aluminum. We only lost one of the 8 screws during this process so that is pretty cool. A trip to the hardware store will alleviate that problem once the stock is done being worked on.
    3) Underneath the sling escutcheons are sling slots that have been filled in with some sort of non-wood substance with a hole to allow a pass-through Finnish swivel. Does anyone know what the substance is?
    4) It seems that a brass shim was placed at the left side of the stock near the recoil bolt which proved problematic when trying to remove the recoil bolt. I am assuming this was placed there for accuracy, as there are other shims in the stock as well.

    While bplvr has my stock, I took all the metal parts home for a good cleaning. In the process of doing all that, I photographed all the parts and their marks.

    A small summary of this gun as I know it to be right now...

    1) The receiver is a Chatellerault receiver, which makes the receiver from 1891 to 1893.
    2) The bolt is nearly all pre-1928 Tula, the only deviation being the bolt face having what appears to be a Sestroyesk mark. (Can anyone narrow down that year?)
    3) The hangers are all pre-1928 Izhevsk.
    4) The barrel has a set of crossed cannons on it. I cannot seem to find where that mark is from. It would make sense if it were Russian as it is a relined barrel but I am not 100% certain.

    Here is a link to all the photos.



    I will post more when the stock has been restored to most of its former glory.

    CARRY ON!

    -N8
  • #2
    mosinnagantm9130
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2009
    • 8782

    I'm looking forward to the after pics. Are you using a finn mix on the stock?
    Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
    My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

    Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
    Originally posted by ChopperX
    I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
    Originally posted by Jeff L
    Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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    • #3
      pullnshoot25
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 8068

      Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130
      I'm looking forward to the after pics. Are you using a finn mix on the stock?
      Yep. It will go on both the P-27 and the M39!

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      • #4
        pullnshoot25
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 8068

        Restored!

        OK guys, the P-27 has been 99% restored and the M-39 has been given a nice coat of pine tar. Here are the results! More to come when I get a chance!



        Many thanks to bplvr for his ASTOUNDING work on this!

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        • #5
          mosinnagantm9130
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2009
          • 8782

          Good work. Me personally, I would have gone just a tad darker on the P27 than what you did, but it's much better than the bubba job it had before.
          Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
          My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

          Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
          Originally posted by ChopperX
          I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
          Originally posted by Jeff L
          Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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          • #6
            pullnshoot25
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 8068

            Re: Finnish P-27 restoration project

            Good work. Me personally, I would have gone just a tad darker on the P27 than what you did, but it's much better than the bubba job it had before.
            How does one go darker?

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            • #7
              mosinnagantm9130
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2009
              • 8782

              Originally posted by pullnshoot25
              How does one go darker?


              Milsurp Collector looks like he has a good method in post #7.

              I've never needed to refinish anything myself, so I'm no expert in that topic.
              Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
              My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

              Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
              Originally posted by ChopperX
              I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
              Originally posted by Jeff L
              Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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              • #8
                Fate
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 9545

                Better to go the pine tar route. Copious amounts of pine tar slathered onto the bare stock (minus the metal), place on aluminum foil and bake in the sun to get it to sink deep into the wood.Wipe off excess after a couple days then hit again or let it cure to form a hard coat. The more coats, the darker/richer it will get. But it's a LONG process. Talking weeks/months. You can also replicate this process and do it faster by using a blowtorch, but that needs a steady hand or you'll scorch your wood.
                sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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