C & R prices?

[steelrain82]

I was wondering how prices are determined on these old rifles. I was told a while back by the local gun shop that enfields are a dime a dozen so he would give me 50 bucks for it. Now I got to thinking about this I see mosins everywhere they are plentiful and cheap. I also see mausers not as plentiful but more costly. I see grands everywhere but they are generally priced high. Now as far as enfields go I have honestly only seen one and I bought it. In that time I have only seen a few and that is on here. But since then none in any shop. And at that they are not expensive but not cheap either. I know there is nothing I can do about it. I just would like to know how this works.

[bigstick61]

$50 bucks for a Lee-Enfield? Someone was trying to rip you off.

[johnthomas]

A quick look at the auctions and I saw one for 255.00 everything else was much more. If your wanting to sell it, do it on Calguns.
I agree with bigstick, the guy was trying to get it for nothing.
I am curious, how many did he have for sale and how much were they?

[Milsurp Collector]

I was wondering how prices are determined on these old rifles.

Just like anything else in a free market: supply and demand.

Large supply + low demand = low price
Small supply + high demand = high price

The only reason Mosin prices are so low is the supply is large relative to the demand. But they aren't making any more. Once the warehouses in the old Soviet Union are empty there will be no more $99 Mosins at Big 5. The supply of Mosins for sale will decrease and the price will increase.

Look at what prices used to be 30-40 years ago when some milsurps were as common as Mosins are today.

[SanPedroShooter]

Thats a sweet century add. i own several guns imported by CAI and i guess i got lucky cause i have no complaints about any of them. although, two of them were just imported the other was actually built by them.
In any case, what is the year on that add? I am gonna guess, mid sixties. I also noticed that i have a rifle marked st alb vt., and another marked georgia vt. at some point they must have moved, does anyone know the year? It could be helpful in identifying the import date or approx.

[M. D. Van Norman]

[9mmepiphany]

I was wondering how prices are determined on these old rifles.

price is determined by what someone will pay for it.

if the seller wants too much, it won't sell. if the seller needs the money, he'll lower his price.

if the buyer want the gun, he'll offer enough for the seller to accept

[steelrain82]

The guy had zero enfield in his shop. And to this day I've still never seen one. I understand the issue of supply and demand but IMO the garands should be cheap than because I see them everywhere but at high prices and like I said I've never seen another enfield in any shop except for the one that I bought about 5 years ago. I would think enfields would be a little more but I bought mine than for 235 otd and now they are still around the same price

[Milsurp Collector]

I understand the issue of supply and demand but IMO the garands should be cheap than because I see them everywhere but at high prices and like I said I've never seen another enfield in any shop except for the one that I bought about 5 years ago.

Supply of Garands is good but demand is also very high, so that keeps prices up. If it wasn't for the CMP supplying so much of the demand at a reasonable price the prices would be even higher. Once the CMP runs out of Garands - which it will some day, there are only so many left outside the US - the prices will really go up.

[Sunday]

Ever wonder what a Garand would cost to manufacture one from 0? all the forged parts . They may be expensive used . Totally new they wouldn't be affordable.

[9mmepiphany]

Ever wonder what a Garand would cost to manufacture one from 0? all the forged parts . They may be expensive used . Totally new they wouldn't be affordable.

they aren't that different to manufacture from a Springfield M1A...as a matter of fact Springfield used to sell one...why would you think a Garrand would be less affordable?

posted by steelrain82
I would think enfields would be a little more but I bought mine than for 235 otd and now they are still around the same price

just goes to show how we perceive price differently.

i bought my last Enfield at Big 5 for something like $130-$150

i kick myself for not getting a Swedish Mauser M41b back when they were <$1k

[Milsurp Collector]

they aren't that different to manufacture from a Springfield M1A...as a matter of fact Springfield used to sell one...why would you think a Garrand would be less affordable?

As Sunday said, almost all of the original Garand parts were forged (except things like handguard metal, later bullet guides, etc.). Springfield Armory used\uses more cast parts, including the receiver, to reduce costs. A stripped forged M14-type receiver by itself costs $900 and up http://www.lrbarms.com/m14receivers.html

[Rem222]

Thanks for that ad Milsurp Collector. A G-43 for $59.50??? Those were the days....

[eighteenninetytwo]

Garands for $99 and No.4 'T' for $38.
Time machine anyone?

[gunboat]

The prices look great by today's wages -- In 1962 the average journeyman wages were about $3.25 per hour.
It took me a long time to save up for a 1916 Krag @19.95, a 11mm Rem Rolling block @ 16.95, a m98 as issued krag @35, M92 Win carbine @$40. The best deals were the 1903a3 and m1911 for about $20 delivered to the door. Oops, I forgot the 7mm Rem rolling block for $4.95 --