*UPDATED with pics and war trophies* any k98 gurus out there?

[4thSBCT]

I need a cleaning rod retainer lug and a cleaning rod for my russian capture k98 its byf marked 44. can anyone tell me how common the russian captures are? It has all the eagle proofs and seems like a really nice piece with a spotless bore. If anyone can point me in the right direction or let me know a little more about my rifle I'd appreciate it thanks.

Im updating my post to include pictures of my K98 along with a few of my grandfathers WW2 war trophies. Included signed nazi flag, mien kompf book signed and personalized during the marraige of a nazi soldier to his wife, german canteen, german footlocker, SA knife I also have a few more questions. I noticed the nazi eagle proof on the side seems to be missing the swastika or thats its been drilled out by the russians. I was wondering if they actually had the swastika or if this is how they normally looked I included pictures of what I am talking about. Also on the stock I noticed an eagle with swastika on the stock. I've never seen that before So Im asking if it original or if someone carved this in.

[Rem222]

Here are a few links for you. The K98(RC) used to be pretty common but even they seem to be drying up. Enjoy your rifle...

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=c60a27b14cbd903d2e1a39382b2d97ae

http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?6-The-K98-Mauser-Forum

http://reviews.ebay.com/The-German-K98-Mauser-Rifle-Parts-and-Accessory-Guide_W0QQugidZ10000000001469617

I picked up my cleaning rod on E-bay. I think there are two sizes, make sure you get the correct one....

[Milsurp Collector]

No guru, but...

Russian Capture (RC) K98k's are the most common type of K98k around. Large numbers were imported for several years, but the supply seems to have finally run out. You could buy all you want for around $200-250 each a few years ago. J&G sales has them for $300 http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/1623

byf 44 (made by Mauser Oberndorf in 1944) is the most common of all K98k codes with approximately 1.4 million made.

Russian Capture (RC) K98k's are not supposed to have cleaning rods (or sight hoods, or locking screws on the triggerguard), they were removed by the Soviets. Your RC K98k is "correct" just as it is. If you want to replace the removed parts with reproductions, you can get them at http://www.landser.com/Mauser.aspx

[mauser98k]

you could try gunbroker for the parts you need. there are always numerous various parts available for around $25 depending n what you need.

and the 9.75" (more commonly called the 10") cleaning rod is only for stocks made from 1935-1939. the one you'll need is more than likely the 12".

and as far as RC's not "supposed to have" cleaning rods, sight hoods and capture screws, they actually are. they were only removed and melted down by the Russians. if you want it to look German issued, get those items.

[Milsurp Collector]

and as far as RC's not "supposed to have" cleaning rods, sight hoods and capture screws, they actually are. they were only removed and melted down by the Russians.

As I said, a Russian Capture (RC) K98k should not have a cleaning rod, sight hood, or locking (not "capture") screws if it is to be in correct Russian Capture (not German) configuration. That's the way the Soviets kept them and issued them to their allies like North Vietnam. After the Soviets captured K98k's and rebuilt them, RC K98k's became a separate subtype with its own characteristics. Some K98k collectors consider RC K98k's to be so altered from their original form that they are more Russian arms than German arms.

[NaughtyMonkey]

I thought about doing the same for my RC K98 but as Milsurp Collector stated it won't be in its Russian Configuration. But its really up to you, its your gun. Just don't sportenize it lol.

[emcon5]

I thought about doing the same for my RC K98 but as Milsurp Collector stated it won't be in its Russian Configuration.

Honestly, BFD. If "Russian Configuration" is all that important, it is pretty easy to get back to that state.

Remove the capture screws, cleaning rod and sight hood and douche the stock with some ugly-arse shellac, and Presto, it is back to "Russian Configuration".

Me? I'll get that nasty shellac off, clean it up and give it a couple coats of BLO and call it good.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Locking screws.

[mauser98k]

Locking screws.

they are screws that "capture" the floorplate screws and keep them from unscrewing when the rifle is fired.. they are capture screws

[Milsurp Collector]

The actual German name for the part is Halteschraube, which translates as "stop screw" or "retaining screw".

[Dr.Mauser]

ok so this is my issue with my K98...every time i fire the damn thing my cleaning rod flops, flys, or drops out of the front of the rifle sad day on the range for the Doc

[4thSBCT]

ok so this is my issue with my K98...every time i fire the damn thing my cleaning rod flops, flys, or drops out of the front of the rifle sad day on the range for the Doc

You need the same thing I do , A new cleaning rod retainer lug. I havent been able to find one and made this post hoping that someone could point my in the right direction. no luck so far. On that german cutaway its called the "stockhalter"

[Milsurp Collector]

You need the same thing I do , A new cleaning rod retainer lug. I havent been able to find one and made this post hoping that someone could point my in the right direction. no luck so far. On that german cutaway its called the "stockhalter"

Are you absolutely sure yours is missing? It was located under the lower band in early rifles that used the shorter cleaning rod, and farther back in the stock for the longer cleaning rod from March 1939 on. You have a later stock with a cupped buttplate so it should be visible in the barrel channel inside the stock.

[Milsurp Collector]

Im updating my post to include pictures of my K98 along with a few of my grandfathers WW2 war trophies. Included signed nazi flag, mien kompf book signed and personalized during the marraige of a nazi soldier to his wife, german canteen, german footlocker, SA knife I also have a few more questions. I noticed the nazi eagle proof on the side seems to be missing the swastika or thats its been drilled out by the russians. I was wondering if they actually had the swastika or if this is how they normally looked I included pictures of what I am talking about. Also on the stock I noticed an eagle with swastika on the stock. I've never seen that before So Im asking if it original or if someone carved this in.

The swastikas on your rifle have been "peened", which is common but not universal on captured (Russian or other) K98k's. There originally was a swastika there



The eagle on the stock is original. There might also be a letter designating what branch of service it went to (H for Heer [Army], L for Luftwaffe [Air Force]) and another eagle with a number under it (Waffenamt inspector mark). There should be another Waffenamt just to the rear of the rear triggerguard screw.

[mosinnagantm9130]

I like the stock on that K98, it looks great. Yes, the Eagle is original.

That SA dagger is worth a pretty penny these days.