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  • N_S
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 748

    7.62x54 spam can fun fact.

    I don't even know if this warrants a thread but I bought a spam can of Bulgarian 7.62x54mmR a long time ago and I finally opened it up. One neat thing I found inside is a slip of paper with a black box on it, inside this box it reads:

    сортировчица 2199

    упаковчица No1025

    невесчица No2773

    укладчица No976

    закатчик No13


    You may have bought a similar can and wondered what these words mean. Well wonder no more!
    Fun fact #1
    They're actually the people who handled your ammo.
    It translates to something like this:

    Sorter (Person who sorts out defective rounds)

    Packer (Person who puts the bullets into the white boxes)

    Weigher (I'm actually not 100% sure about this translation)

    Stuffer/Packer (I'm guessing the person who puts the white boxes into the can)

    Sealer/Loader (person who seals can or loads it in a crate, maybe both)

    Fun fact #2
    In Cyrillic languages a person's designation has a gender that changes depending on the gender of the person occupying that role. In this case everyone who's role ends with "чица" is female and everyone who's role ends with "чик" is male.

    Also the Russian alphabet translated phonetically.
    абвгдеёжзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя
    A B V G D E YO ZHE Z I IY K L M N O P R S T OO F TSE CHE SH SHYE
    (Hard sign, no pronunciation only used in syntax) (ы is pronounced like a messed up I but seldom used by itself, usually in a context of some kind) (Soft sign, no pronunciation only used in syntax)
    And lastly U and Y

    So now you know. If your spam can had rounds that have split cases you should blame сортировчица #whatever the first number you see on that list is.

    I wonder if anyone here who has bought Bulgarian 7.62x54r from a SPAM can had it handled by the same people. If the numbers on your piece of paper match that is in fact the case.
    Last edited by N_S; 03-18-2010, 6:43 PM.
  • #2
    858casper858
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 772

    Wow, that is pretty interesting, thanks for taking the time to figure that out. I don't have one if those spam cans but cool info none the less.

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    • #3
      AngryPossum
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1414

      Almost makes me want too open my other can's to look, but I don't think I'll be doing that any time soon

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      • #4
        rojocorsa
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2008
        • 9139

        I love 7.62x54R
        sigpic
        7-6-2 FTMFW!

        "...and an old German guy said there was a bit of an unsaid joke about the Nazi salute; apparently when they clicked their heels and raised their arm up in the air in a Nazi salute, they were saying, "we're in this much s___."

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        • #5
          joefrank64k
          @ the Dark End of the Bar
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2009
          • 10124

          Originally posted by rojocorsa
          I love 7.62x54R
          Darn straight!
          You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
          If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
          Come on...what harm??

          joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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          • #6
            Plywood
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 377

            Awesome! I saved that little tag from my can. my numbers are 3948, 5011, 2773, 976. looks like the same people packed the paper boxes. Very cool

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            • #7
              N_S
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 748

              Originally posted by 858casper858
              Wow, that is pretty interesting, thanks for taking the time to figure that out. I don't have one if those spam cans but cool info none the less.
              This is one of the few times my Russian came in handy. I just opened up the box, read the tag and figured somebody else here might have seen these tags and wondered what purpose they serve.

              Say if anyone wants anything else that's in Russian vaguely translated I can probably do it.

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              • #8
                NaughtyMonkey
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1832

                I was planning on getting a spam can and thanks for the information. Pretty cool stuff there. Thanks for the share.
                -General George S. Patton Jr.
                "In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised."

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                • #9
                  7.62x54R
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1602

                  Originally posted by rojocorsa
                  I love 7.62x54R
                  Thanks makes me feel appreciated

                  Good info never knew what those little papers said.
                  Originally posted by rkt88edmo
                  MOOOOOOO!!!
                  Originally posted by Notorious
                  fight the power.
                  Originally posted by Ford8N
                  I have one request, will all the fatties please take a shower and use some deodorant before you go to the show.

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                  • #10
                    justMike
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 753

                    N S, can any of us access the cyrillic alphabet on our computers?
                    If so could you tell us how? Thanks for your interesting post.

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                    • #11
                      N_S
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 748

                      Originally posted by justMike
                      N S, can any of us access the cyrillic alphabet on our computers?
                      If so could you tell us how? Thanks for your interesting post.
                      I just copied it off here.


                      My keyboard isn't set up to switch between Russian and English so I just took a while to copy/paste the letters in the right order to form words. It's still easy for me because I know Russian almost as well as I know English.

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                      • #12
                        JohnBrian
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1203

                        Originally posted by N_S
                        Say if anyone wants anything else that's in Russian vaguely translated I can probably do it.
                        Know any cuss words?
                        THIS SPACE FOR RENT

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                        • #13
                          N_S
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 748

                          Originally posted by JohnBrian
                          Know any cuss words?
                          Only a couple, I was only 6 when I moved stateside. People generally try not to bust out the worst of their vocabulary in front of a 6 year old.

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                          • #14
                            pogo
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 588

                            Originally posted by JohnBrian
                            Know any cuss words?
                            A few years ago I started a thread on gunboards.com asking for Russian curse words, looking for the proper response to those at the range who enjoy telling me that my Mosins are inferior junk.

                            Folks there gave some good answers (before the thread was locked), some milder ones were.
                            Tee - you are
                            sA-bA-kA - a dog
                            SooKa - B word
                            sookin sin - SOB
                            sookov sini - SOBs
                            Doo-Rak - fool
                            ee-Dee-Ot - idiot


                            I can't print the racier expressions and translations here, but some good ones can be found at


                            These may not all be accurate, but they served my purpose well.

                            Some Stalin and Kruschev era political slams can be found at
                            Insults and other rhetoric of the Soviet press, especially in Stalin's time
                            Last edited by pogo; 03-20-2010, 10:22 PM.

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                            • #15
                              JohnBrian
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1203

                              Thanks!
                              THIS SPACE FOR RENT

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