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  • nickarino
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 160

    Proof that an SVT is legal in CA

    I'm currently trying to find some quick proof, perhaps in the form of a link, that can verify that the SVT-40 is legal in California. Anyone have any good links that I could reference. This is not for me, but for proof for an out of state seller. Just to be sure, this person is a private individual and I have my C&R, so all I would need from him is a copy of his DL to enter his info in my bound book. Correct? Thanks guys.
    Last edited by nickarino; 03-18-2010, 10:57 AM.
  • #2
    Milsurp Collector
    Calguns Addict
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 5884

    You can send him here http://calnra.com/cgi-bin/flowchart.cgi and have him answer the questions. Go through it yourself first to make sure you end up with the right answer (not an assault weapon).
    Revolvers are not pistols

    pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
    Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

    ExitCalifornia.org

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    • #3
      Josh3239
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 9189

      Penal Code:

      12276.1a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall
      also mean any of the following:
      (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
      accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
      (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
      of the weapon.
      (B) A thumbhole stock.
      (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
      (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
      (E) A flash suppressor.
      (F) A forward pistol grip.
      (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
      with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
      (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length
      of less than 30 inches.
      SVT cannot be AW based on features per above.


      12276 As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the
      following designated semiautomatic firearms:
      (a) All of the following specified rifles:
      (1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models
      identified as follows:
      (A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and
      86S.
      (B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
      (C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
      (D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
      (2) UZI and Galil.
      (3) Beretta AR-70.
      (4) CETME Sporter.
      (5) Colt AR-15 series.
      (6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
      (7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
      (8) MAS 223.
      (9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1.
      (10) The following MAC types:
      (A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
      (B) SWD Incorporated M11.
      (11) SKS with detachable magazine.
      (12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
      (13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
      (14) Sterling MK-6.
      (15) Steyer AUG.
      (16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
      (17) Armalite AR-180.
      (18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
      (19) Calico M-900.
      (20) J&R ENG M-68.
      (21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
      (b) All of the following specified pistols:
      (1) UZI.
      (2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
      (3) The following MAC types:
      (A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
      (B) SWD Incorporated M-11.
      (C) Advance Armament Inc. M-11.
      (D) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11.
      (4) Intratec TEC-9.
      (5) Sites Spectre.
      (6) Sterling MK-7.
      (7) Calico M-950.
      (8) Bushmaster Pistol.
      (c) All of the following specified shotguns:
      (1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
      (2) Striker 12.
      (3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.
      It isn't listed on the Roberti-Roos ban list.

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      • #4
        KING_PALM
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 3590

        svt40's are legal. there are a few members on the board that have them
        i have seen a few at gun shows for sale $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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        • #5
          Steyr_223
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2002
          • 9480

          bwiese and others went around and around on this topic. See this thread..



          Originally Posted by bwiese View Post
          Firstly, as was proved with Gene Hoffman's purchase of several DOJ-seized receivers (and his acquiring legal ownership before getting them returned/LEGR'd/re-DROSed to him), you can indeed *own* a firearm without the DROS being complete: you can have ownership rights even if you can't have immediate legal possession. If you are (1) nonprohibited/eligible buyer, (2) paid all fees/taxes/etc. for gun, and (3) began the DROS you can be regarded as owning the gun and having exclusive rights to it.

          Now, I have seen a fair amount of resources referring to the muzzle device on an SVT-40 as a "flash hider" in addition to muzzle brake. From the nature of the holes/openings, it looks to have a fairly open interior with lotsa slits - that is, not that dissimilar from a non-CA-legal M1A/M14 flash hider as opposed to the CA-legal brake on Springfield M1As sold in CA.

          Nationally-known gun lawyer James Bardwell (specializing in ATF/SOT matters and "What To Do When The BATF Comes A-knockin'") uses the term "flash hider" in his writings about the SVT40's muzzle device and its relation to importation ban of 1994 "Crime Bill": http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIID2b194.html

          If James Bardwell thinks it's an FH, and there seems to be quite a bit of information out there it's commonly thought of as a FH, then I'd steer clear of rifles with that particular device too.

          While DOJ regulations for FH are poor and DOJ staff have no idea what is or isn't an FH (and in fact they say it could include sunglasses hanging off the end of the barrel!), folks should shy away of such issues until the CA AW ban is stricken or further clarification comes out.

          It's a defendable case, but you don't want a $5K+ legal bill for a $200 rifle.

          Quick fixes:

          * FH is removed. Threaded bbls are not an evil feature under CA law or Federal law.
          You can possess the FH separately/not installed. Find another surplus one, cut it
          down and reblue it and turn it into a thread protector - or better yet, have a
          machinist make a thread protector from some bar stock and use a Birchwood
          Casey blueing pen on it.

          Keep the orig. FH unharmed for when you move to a free state or CA's AWB is stricken.

          * Some kinda mag catch screw setup - have no idea how, others can speak up - is fastened
          so the magazine is fixed and is not considered a detachable mag. (This rifle would work
          GREAT with a fixed mag.)


          Those of you with SVT40s out there should exercise caution in regard to this matter as this is functionally no different than a Mini14 or M1A with a factory flash hider.

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          • #6
            timdps
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2007
            • 3467

            Originally posted by Steyr_223

            It's a defendable case, but you don't want a $5K+ legal bill for a $200 rifle.

            Quick fixes:

            * FH is removed. Threaded bbls are not an evil feature under CA law or Federal law.
            You can possess the FH separately/not installed. Find another surplus one, cut it
            down and reblue it and turn it into a thread protector - or better yet, have a
            machinist make a thread protector from some bar stock and use a Birchwood
            Casey blueing pen on it.
            This fix is not an option for the SVT-40. The muzzle brake is a part of the barrel extension, as is the gas block. Removing the barrel extension makes the rifle unusable. You could just chop the muzzle brake off of a spare extension, but its a waste of a $35-$50 piece.

            The muzzle brake design is quite obviously designed to force the muzzle of the barrel down, making it a brake, not a flash hider. If you have ever fired an SVT40 at night, you know its NOT a flash hider. In addition to the muzzle flash coming out of the front of the brake, you get two side flashes out two feet of each side of the brake... and then you are blind for a while with the after-image of those side flashes.

            Tim

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            • #7
              Vladimir
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2008
              • 1311

              Just use the code for it, SVT's are completely legal, Ive gone through 2 of them, buy/sell, in the past few years.

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              • #8
                saki302
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 7186

                Some of the later models didn't have slits in the brake either- they had 4 huge ports. Definitely a brake! Ask the guy next to you at the range if it's a brake or not

                -Save

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                • #9
                  Dr. Peter Venkman
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 4899

                  For future reference, you don't "prove" that a gun is legal; it's the other way around.
                  sigpic
                  "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
                  Originally posted by berto
                  You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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                  • #10
                    littlejake
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2168

                    Originally posted by nickarino
                    I'm currently trying to find some quick proof, perhaps in the form of a link, that can verify that the SVT-40 is legal in California. Anyone have any good links that I could reference. This is not for me, but for proof for an out of state seller. Just to be sure, this person is a private individual and I have my C&R, so all I would need from him is a copy of my his DL to enter his info in my bound book. Correct? Thanks guys.
                    should read his DL.
                    Life Member NRA and 2A Foundation.
                    My posts are my own opinions and do not reflect those of any organization I am a member of.
                    Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

                    "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                    William Pitt (1759-1806)

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                    • #11
                      TRICKSTER
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 12438

                      Copy of DL is nice to have, but not needed. All you need is name and address.


                      Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                      • #12
                        OneApart
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2155

                        SVT is 100% legal in CA. I ran into an ex SB County Sheriff that was selling one @ Crossroads of the West GS he says no problem. As was mentioned above, it does not have any "assault features", and is not banned by name in CA. good to go.
                        Last edited by OneApart; 03-18-2010, 9:54 AM.
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                        • #13
                          mj1
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 3318

                          If you look for trouble you will find it.
                          WTS As new M47 Madsen 3006 w/bayonet.
                          WTS NIB Mosin 91/59
                          I will deliver or ship, details to be arranged with buyer.
                          The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are.

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