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  • Satex
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2006
    • 3501

    M1 Garand "Thumb"

    Ok, this weekend we are taking out our new (old) M1 Garand to the range. We read the manual, researched everything we could online, stripped and assembled the rifle to learn how to operate it.

    We do have one more question:
    The manual claims that when you put a clip in the action wont release until downwards pressure on the clip is released. Some other guides suggested you can latch the clip in and assist the op rod forward.

    So, how does clip loading work? Should I grab the rod as I load the clip to make sure it doesnt slam on my thumb? Is it really the downwards pressure that will make the action move forward?
  • #2
    Tweak338
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 4076

    just do it quickly.
    if you get M1 Thumb, its something to talk about and you will learn how to avoid it.

    but I have never loaded a garand.. so i cant say much

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    • #3
      TEX1966
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 255

      Push in the clip with your right thumb. Use your other four fingers to hold the opp rod back. Remove thumb, and if opp rod does not go forward give it a nudge.

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      • #4
        donger
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1560

        ^^^^

        What Tex said. Use your right thumb to push in the clip and the heal of your hand to hold back the op rod.
        Certified Ragaholic

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        • #5
          Sgt Raven
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3821

          You get M1 Thumb from depressing the follower to close the action on an Empty rifle. When you load a CLIP into a M1 the bolt could push your thumb out of the way but it isn't deep enough to be trapped.
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          • #6
            NRAhighpowershooter
            Super Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2003
            • 6485

            Sgt. Raven is correct.. the ONLY way you'll ever get 'M1 thumb' is if you get careless with an unloaded M1
            'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

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            • #7
              Sgt Raven
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3821

              Originally posted by Satex
              Some other guides suggested you can latch the clip in and assist the op rod forward.

              If the action doesn't close all the way you smack the op-rod handle like you would the forward assist on a AR-15.
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              DILLIGAF
              "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
              "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
              "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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              • #8
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34781

                ok how about this... hyjack.... about 1 in 4 times my clip pops up with 3-4 rounds left. I have to push it back in to the magazine to finish the clip. am I not lubeing somthing right, is somthing worn? am I doing somthing wrong?

                thanks

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                • #9
                  fal_762x51
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2700

                  The only time I almost gotten "bitten" was when I used a really used enbloc clip; the rounds were not contained as snug as they should have been. Anyway, I depressed the loaded clip in and the bolt slammed the round into battery with out my "slapping" the charging handle.
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                  • #10
                    icormba
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1826

                    Originally posted by five.five-six
                    ok how about this... hyjack.... about 1 in 4 times my clip pops up with 3-4 rounds left. I have to push it back in to the magazine to finish the clip. am I not lubeing somthing right, is somthing worn? am I doing somthing wrong?

                    thanks
                    You might need a new clip latch spring or even a new clip latch. Try replacing the spring first... easy & cheap fix if it's the spring. ~$1.00. Clip latch is around $15 or so if you can find one. Might as well get a new Op Rod spring if you haven't changed that in a while. Orion 7 has both springs... I use their SS springs in all my M1's.

                    They are m1garand.com... not m1garand.net
                    Last edited by icormba; 03-09-2007, 11:41 PM.
                    Chris
                    http://www.m1garand.net

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                    • #11
                      Satex
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3501

                      Thanks guys. I am going out to the range tomorrow to give it a go.
                      Ifmymessageslooklikethistomorrow, it means I had my right thumb crushed and cannot hit the space bar on the keyboard

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                      • #12
                        Gunsrruss
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1488

                        Clip Catch...

                        Originally posted by five.five-six
                        ok how about this... hyjack.... about 1 in 4 times my clip pops up with 3-4 rounds left. I have to push it back in to the magazine to finish the clip. am I not lubeing somthing right, is somthing worn? am I doing somthing wrong?

                        thanks
                        Sounds like your clip catch is worn
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                        I won't be insulted
                        And I won't be laid a hand on.
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