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  • Directshot
    Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 169

    Bound Book for C & R

    Anyone know where a good place to get the sacred Bound Book for tracking my C & R acquisition and dispositions.....
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    ocabj
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 7924

    I use a PDF file with form boxes where I type in them, and save the pages for electronic backups and print out copies for the actual hard book. Sleeved and put into a 3-ring binder.

    Or you could go low tech and just use a spiral notebook and write your stuff down.

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    • #3
      stevie
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3856

      Or lower tech and order one from Brownells

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        -hanko
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        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        Originally posted by ocabj
        I use a PDF file with form boxes where I type in them, and save the pages for electronic backups and print out copies for the actual hard book. Sleeved and put into a 3-ring binder.

        Or you could go low tech and just use a spiral notebook and write your stuff down.
        Same. Excel spreadsheet, printed. I'm low volume, 2 pages will last for a while.

        -hanko
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        • #5
          Directshot
          Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 169

          I may have been misinformed, I was told the book literally had to be bound and that the three ring binder was not acceptable to the visiting DOJ boys...

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          • #6
            chiefcrash
            Internet Dictator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jul 2006
            • 3408

            Originally posted by Directshot
            I may have been misinformed, I was told the book literally had to be bound and that the three ring binder was not acceptable to the visiting DOJ boys...

            First, DOJ would not visit you. The ATF could, but not the DOJ.

            Secondly: here's a question asked of the ATF:


            Oct. 2005

            Q: I was wondering about the ATF required bound book for C&R license
            holders. Is it okay to use a loose leaf binder to hold pages? Is it okay to use electronic records (not printed)? Or does the book have to be a REAL bound book, like a journal?

            A: A "bound book" is a permanently bound book or an orderly arrangement of loose-leaf pages which must be maintained on the business premises. In either event, the format must follow that prescribed in the regulations and the pages must be numbered consecutively. [27 CFR 178.125]

            The Government does not sell a record book for licensees to use in
            recording their receipts and dispositions of firearms. Certain trade
            associations have them available at nominal cost. Your supplier should
            be able to tell you about this.

            The Regional Director (Compliance) or other designated ATF official must approve a request for a recordkeeping variance before the licensee may use a computer system in lieu of the "bound book" record required by the regulations. [27 CFR 178.22 and 178.125(h)]
            Originally posted by Kestryll
            we can not nor should not dismiss or discount my theory that in the dark of night you molest sea anemones by candlelight.
            Originally posted by TKM
            Show me on this 1st Amendment bobble-head doll where the mods touched you.
            Originally posted by Click Boom
            It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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            • #7
              hoffmang
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2006
              • 18448

              You do actually need a letter to only keep your records electronically.

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              • #8
                Directshot
                Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 169

                Thanks chiefcrash. Always a pleasure seeing the information in quotes with references.

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                • #9
                  NRAhighpowershooter
                  Super Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6485

                  I use this for my acquisition and disposition records


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                  • #10
                    ocabj
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7924

                    Originally posted by NRAhighpowershooter
                    I use this for my acquisition and disposition records


                    http://www.surplusrifle.com/graphics/boundbookpage.pdf
                    That's the same one I use, except I edited mine with Acrobat to have user typable form fields.

                    Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                    NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                    NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

                    https://www.ocabj.net

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                    • #11
                      jmlivingston
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 5095

                      Yup, I use the same one. Printed a dozen copies off and stuck in a 3-ring binder. I'm not a large collector so that'll probably last me half my life.

                      John

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                      • #12
                        ccampbell
                        Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 333

                        Here is another one, good for 3 ring books.


                        Chris

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                        • #13
                          double_action
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1203

                          I made pages for myself. I print in on 11x17 paper, fold it in half, then hole-punch it and stick it in a 3-ring binder.




                          If anyone wants a PDF feel free to PM me
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                          • #14
                            tjschia
                            Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 255

                            Originally posted by Directshot
                            Anyone know where a good place to get the sacred Bound Book for tracking my C & R acquisition and dispositions.....
                            I bought two books from RK Enterprises. They have one for C&R purchases and one for everything else. I really like the books and recommend them to anyone. They are mail order only and I forgot how much I paid for them. If you are interested their phone number is: (805) 687-1416, located in Santa Barbara.

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                            • #15
                              chiefcrash
                              Internet Dictator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3408

                              i got permission from the ATF to use electronic records, so i use this: http://www.nmcollector.net/nmguncollector/index.htm

                              it's really great software, especially for the price (brownells on a dealer discount). And even if you don't get ATF permision, you can use it (just print out your C&R log and put it in a binder)
                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              we can not nor should not dismiss or discount my theory that in the dark of night you molest sea anemones by candlelight.
                              Originally posted by TKM
                              Show me on this 1st Amendment bobble-head doll where the mods touched you.
                              Originally posted by Click Boom
                              It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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