Mosin Nagant Bayonet Usage

[Robidouxs]

For anyone that has removed the bayonet on their rifle , does it provide an increase of balance in the rifle? (specifically an M44, but any other Nagants will do) Do you find the rifle easier to utilize at the range after removing the bayonet? Any reason to remove the bayonet?

[wilit]

Everything I've read about the M44's says they actually shoot better with the bayonet on and extended.

[Palimino Stripe]

^ In theory that goes for ALL Mosin Nagants actually. Supposedly ALL Mosins (except M38's) were sighted with bayonets on. Why? Because they were NEVER supposed to be taken off. Except when the situation demands it (i.e. driving in a car).

-Palimino

[Meety Peety]

Yep, Mosins were sighted with the bayonet on and extended. Many of them will shoot low left with the bayonet closed and who knows where with it completely removed. You can simply adjust your sights to be on target with the bayonet removed if its not shooting where you want it to go. I believe 7.62x54r.net can cite this somewhere.

[Robidouxs]

Just to verify, you are indicating that the M44 actually shoots better with the bayonet fully extended?

[AngryPossum]

Just to verify, you are indicating that the M44 actually shoots better with the bayonet fully extended?

Most of the information I have read confirms this...so Yes. I will admit though...at the range I have yet to extend the bayonet on any of my M44's. It's kind of a pain to clean all the extra corrosive crap off the bayonet. This is coming from someone who will clean there rifle for hours if need be after a range trip, so the bayonet just adds extra headache. When I go to my buddies property I will extend it and have fun all day though...but for a couple hours at the range it's not worth it to me...most of the time.

[Meety Peety]

Its not 100% either way, theres no way to really claim it as such, but yes, typically your M44 is going to be the most accurate with the bayonet attached and extended. Keep in mind it has nothing to do with the gun itself and everything to do with the sights/shooter. You have no way of knowing if the sight configuration was ever changed in one way or another to change the way it shoots.. thus its not 100% certain that it will be more accurate with the bayonet extended.. or if the gun will even be accurate at all with its given configuration. All this means is that its very very likely that the sight configuration was not changed and that in most cases, an M44 will be most accurate with the bayonet extended. Don't try to sue me if you are one of the few cases where this isn't true lol.

[cryoguy]

I use the bayonet from my Mosin as a prybar...

[Lurch762]

I've shot my Type 53 (Chinese M44) with the bayonet extended and folded and did not see a difference in POI but it was only at 25 yards. Bayo extended, the rifle does feel more balanced. My 91/59 feels better balanced than any of the M44's I have but since it's lighter, it recoils significantly harder with the same ammo. Shooting heavy ball thru both rifles, the Type 53 was stout but the 91/59 hurt and although it caused some soreness and bruising, I really like it.

[Lurch762]

I use the bayonet from my Mosin as a prybar...

LOL, the bayonet on one of my Type 53's looks like it was used to dig up potatoes!

[Milsurp Collector]

See http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8&postcount=27

[seanbo]

Zombie kebab!

[pullnshoot25]

Most of the information I have read confirms this...so Yes. I will admit though...at the range I have yet to extend the bayonet on any of my M44's. It's kind of a pain to clean all the extra corrosive crap off the bayonet. This is coming from someone who will clean there rifle for hours if need be after a range trip, so the bayonet just adds extra headache. When I go to my buddies property I will extend it and have fun all day though...but for a couple hours at the range it's not worth it to me...most of the time.

I verified it with my own rifle, it is true.

[bplvr]

There is a completely logical reason for sighting in with the bayonet extended. THINK BRUTAL COMBAT. You are within 100 yards of the enemy and you have superior numbers,but they have become entrenched. If you are close enough to shoot your M44 ,you are close enough to charge any second.You won't have 10 seconds to deploy it . You have your spare clip in your teeth and you are firing on the run across that 100 yards .When you reach the enemy lines you are ready to give them the cold steel.
If you are close enough to shoot,....you are close enough to stab.

[Flyin Brian]

Its not 100% either way, theres no way to really claim it as such, but yes, typically your M44 is going to be the most accurate with the bayonet attached and extended. Keep in mind it has nothing to do with the gun itself and everything to do with the sights/shooter. You have no way of knowing if the sight configuration was ever changed in one way or another to change the way it shoots.. thus its not 100% certain that it will be more accurate with the bayonet extended.. or if the gun will even be accurate at all with its given configuration. All this means is that its very very likely that the sight configuration was not changed and that in most cases, an M44 will be most accurate with the bayonet extended. Don't try to sue me if you are one of the few cases where this isn't true lol.

Maybe it's me but this response doesn't make a whole lot of sense. From what I have read, the M44 is more accurate with the bayo extended due to the harmonics of the barrel and resonance. I don't own an M44 so it's not something I've ever spent too much time worrying about, but your statement to "keep in mind it has nothing to do with the gun itself" goes against most of the results people have posted on numerous forums.