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  • run8
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 875

    Something Doesn't Look Right

    I know a bit about k98k mausers, not much about the sniper rigs, but this one doesn't look right at all.

    Not to mention how clean the rifle looks, as though it's been refinished along with the others this chap is selling.

    He has high expectations.

    "Freedom is only protected by those who prepare to die"
  • #2
    Sampachi
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 812

    Definitely looks too clean, but the Zf41 scope was used quite a bit throughout the war. This was the "marksman" rifle that the Germans went to war with in Poland and France. They didn't really upgrade till after they fought the Soviets.

    I'd say it has been refinished at the least. This could be a correct rifle but I stayed away from German firearms just because there are so many forgeries out there.
    Last edited by Sampachi; 12-30-2009, 6:42 PM.

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    • #3
      wksun88
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 1035

      looks like a mitchell's mausers copy

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      • #4
        run8
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 875

        The eye relief though, the placement of how far forward the scope is, doesn't look very pleasant to shoot, that's what has me wondering and of course it's too clean too.

        Originally posted by Sampachi
        Definitely looks too clean, but the Zf41 scope was used quite a bit throughout the war. This was the "marksman" rifle that the Germans went to war with in Poland and France. They didn't really upgrade till after they fought the Soviets.

        I'd say it has been refinished at the least. This could be a correct rifle but I stayed away from German firearms just because there are so many forgeries out there.
        "Freedom is only protected by those who prepare to die"

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        • #5
          Milsurp Collector
          Calguns Addict
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          Stock has been heavily, I mean heavily sanded, sanding scratches are still visible. Claims matching numbers but no pictures to verify claim.

          Reproduction ZF41 mounts and scopes are readily available http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd....11949&mySort=1

          German sniper rifles (and the ZF41 isn't even a real sniper rifle, it was for the designated marksman) are a minefield that hucksters love to exploit. Generally best to avoid unless you enjoy being scammed out of a lot of money.
          Revolvers are not pistols

          pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
          Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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          • #6
            Spiggy
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2006
            • 8688

            Originally posted by run8
            The eye relief though, the placement of how far forward the scope is, doesn't look very pleasant to shoot, that's what has me wondering and of course it's too clean too.
            it's like staring through a sharpie, with just as much magnification
            Originally posted by AJAX22
            Anti gun BS...

            Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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            • #7
              Milsurp Collector
              Calguns Addict
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 5884

              By the way, here is a real Zf.41 (doesn't belong to me) for comparison http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...-vet-bringback
              Revolvers are not pistols

              pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
              Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

              ExitCalifornia.org

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              • #8
                Jarhead
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 2847

                its a Replica Zf41 Sharpshooter Rifle, probably built up from an RC, worth $800-1000 if you had it made up yourself. Anytime they don't give you close up pictures of the code, year and markings its probably a made up sniper.

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                • #9
                  Dr. Peter Venkman
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 4899

                  Stock looks stripped and sanded.
                  sigpic
                  "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
                  Originally posted by berto
                  You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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                  • #10
                    locktime
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1114

                    Look at his other auctions. He's been on a Sniper construction binge.
                    Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.
                    - Montesquieu

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                    • #11
                      Jarhead
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2847

                      He should say that its a built up Replica but then he would have to sell it for$1000-1100 instead of trying to rip off off some unsuspecting newbie.

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                      • #12
                        timdps
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 3469

                        Like someone said: pimped up like a Mitchell's Mauser.
                        Repro ZF41 scopes and mounts are available and then there is that handguard which appears to be made of beech. Also appears to have the Russian serial sanded off the buttstock. Note the old (2008) photo dates and pretty much useless photos.

                        Looked at the rest of his stuff for sale and would not touch any of it for a quarter of the prices he is asking.

                        Tim

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                        • #13
                          wilit
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 5210

                          From: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=344231&page=2

                          "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
                          "You have to be willing to swing your nuts like a deadblow hammer to put these jackasses in their place." - AJAX22
                          "The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry." - William F Buckley Jr.
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                          • #14
                            run8
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 875

                            Very cool photos.

                            Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
                            By the way, here is a real Zf.41 (doesn't belong to me) for comparison http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...-vet-bringback
                            "Freedom is only protected by those who prepare to die"

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