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  • CGK60
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 594

    1903 springfield

    Hello is the 03 still considerd a c&r if its been turned into a sporter.
  • #2
    cdtx2001
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2009
    • 6630

    I believe so
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    • #3
      maxx424
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 340

      Don't think so - Any C&R that is modified loses it's C&R status.

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      • #4
        gunboat
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 3288

        This is a rather confusing issue to me as well. If you restock or rebarrel a 1930's winchester model 94 is it now no longer C&R?. I can see a #4 Enfield remanufactured by gibbs and sold in 1980 no longer being C&R but can see no reason why an 03 or krag sporterized in the 40's is not C&R -- Not disputing the law just not quite understanding the technicalities of it.
        my ha-penny

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        • #5
          00BuckShot
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 532

          C&R must be in unaltered condition, restored to original condition is OK too.
          -jeremy
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          • #6
            rjf
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 649

            It's over 50 years old. It is a C&R as a sporter.

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            • #7
              CGK60
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 594

              03

              So your saying doesn't matter sporter or original still a c&r. thanks that clears things up for me.

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              • #8
                gunboat
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 3288

                Buck shot --- you are saying a 1900 manufactured krag sporterized by cutting the barrel and installing in a carbine stock is no longer C&R? -- or as first mentioned, a m94 winchester rebarreled/restocked and new non original style sights is no longer C&R ? -- No matter when the mods were done? -- rather confusing -gb

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                • #9
                  Xerxes
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1664

                  Use to be that no matter what over 50 years was C&R.

                  Then the gungrabbers came along.

                  The ATF had a longstanding rule that C&R by name instead of age was no longer C&R if significanlty altered such that its purpose for collecting was no longer the same.

                  THen came those Harvard and Yale crooks that took us all on wall street and fear the great unwashed masses having firearms and we now even have one of these crooks in the whitehouse.

                  They formed something called the firearms technology division or some non-sense like that.

                  They decided to use the prior regulation to prohibit the importation of as many firearms as possible claiming their collector purpose was altered.

                  Then some idiot in that department actually issued a cirucular letter in behalf of that department that said by inference that this ruled also applied to those firearms over 50 years old.

                  I expect soon that the same will be applied to antique firearms.

                  This is somewhat recent, and maybe some folks still have the link to this letter on the BATFE site that they can post.

                  Changing a barrel or stock to something similar does not alter its status. Making it a sporter could depending upon how much altering was done.

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                  • #10
                    run8
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 875

                    So this is why the Gibbs 03' w/scope I mentioned in another post is considered a new rifle?
                    "Freedom is only protected by those who prepare to die"

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                    • #11
                      paratroop
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1743

                      Originally posted by run8
                      So this is why the Gibbs 03' w/scope I mentioned in another post is considered a new rifle?
                      i thought those were actually new production.
                      Originally posted by Marcus von W.
                      Is that banjo music I hear?
                      "Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.
                      "Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.
                      First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.
                      Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story.

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                      • #12
                        run8
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 875

                        Friend that ordered one said they are built from parade rifles with new barrels and such.

                        Originally posted by paratroop
                        i thought those were actually new production.
                        "Freedom is only protected by those who prepare to die"

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