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  • #16
    kenc9
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 1774

    Originally posted by smle-man
    I guess I am one rifle behind for Finland's military; the last information I had showed them adopting yet another version of the 91 action for their sniper rifle. I know the SAKO action isn't a 91 derivitive. Finland captured a massive amount of 91/30s in the Winter war but chose not to break any of those down for action for Model 39 rifles. Guess they felt the Hex receivers had something more going for them.
    There are Hex, Round High Wall and Low Wall receivers. There is no other action that I am aware of.

    I believe they didn't feel a need to convert workable 91/30's to 39's and used the older in need of refurbing ones for the new model. They moved away from the Hex receivers because of more streamline and less costly manufacturing reason.

    They are tuff receivers and used under normal conditions will most likely last another 100 years. I have an 1897 dated Mosin 91 and shoot it often.

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    • #17
      xenophobe
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2006
      • 7069

      Originally posted by jerryb78
      which si the most desireable receiver of mosin nagent it you were to use it to build custom rifle? the Finnish and some of the european use selected Nagent receiver to build custome rifle/ sniper rifle.
      It's Nagant, not Nagent, and why the hell would you want to build a custom rifle on one?

      Most gunsmiths probably wouldn't even touch that project... You can find a 98 Mauser action for about $100 and you'll end up with a much nicer rifle, and there are actually some nice stocks that you can buy... the only aftermarket stock that I know of for the Mosin is from Advanced Technology, which is utter crap.

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      • #18
        kenc9
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2003
        • 1774

        Originally posted by xenophobe
        It's Nagant, not Nagent, and why the hell would you want to build a custom rifle on one?

        Most gunsmiths probably wouldn't even touch that project... You can find a 98 Mauser action for about $100 and you'll end up with a much nicer rifle, and there are actually some nice stocks that you can buy... the only aftermarket stock that I know of for the Mosin is from Advanced Technology, which is utter crap.
        This is true, most gunsmiths won't rebarrel it or much else. This would have to be a do it yourself project. Mausers are much more main stream for custom rifles but if your goal is to get an old rifle to save money you might check out what it will cost to rebarrel and stock it, a scope, and so on will cost.

        A used rifle would probably be much cheaper.

        Most likely you would have to be a Mosin nut to go down that path and most Mosin/Finn nuts wouldn't alter one. But they have been done before.Or you can buy a repro sniper rifle as a hunting rifle if you really like the Mosin.





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        • #19
          Dr. Peter Venkman
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 4899

          If you want a "sniper rifle", buy a Remington 710 for $350-400. Adding optics to an old battle rifle that has a low chance of being MOA from the get-go is a waste considering all of the hacking that would be required to make it what you want.
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          • #20
            M. Sage
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jul 2006
            • 19759

            Originally posted by smle-man
            Finland captured a massive amount of 91/30s in the Winter war but chose not to break any of those down for action for Model 39 rifles. Guess they felt the Hex receivers had something more going for them.
            They didn't bother with the conversions because that would have taken time and money they didn't have at the moment.

            Besides, I think they saw that semi-auto was right around the corner (I've heard they captured more than a couple of SVTs, un-used) and why bother with yesterday's tech when you'll be picking up tomorrow's off your enemies' frozen corpses?

            @Xeno: I wish people would just drop the Nagant part... Too many people call a Mosin a Nagant, when a Nagant is a revolver....
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            • #21
              jerryb78
              Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 262

              well guys. thx for the input and opinion. main reason i want a heavy barrel mosin nagent is i saw one custom build- well... love it first site. i'm pretty much head over heal on that custom mosin nagent heavy barrel.

              sorry i don't have a picture to share. i wish i did. i couldn't tell what it was, but when the owner told me what it actually is, i was shock. just think of the best looking custom '98 rifle you ever seen.---then substitude it for a mosin nagent receiver. it also chamber in the original 7.62 x 54 and custom fancy grade thomb hole stock.

              he use a heavy barrel machine gun barrel for this custom build, but can't remember what barrel he use. so i was looking for a heavy machine gun barrel that is long enough and can be use for this build.that's why i wanted to know the diamention of a browning 1919 machine gun barrel.

              anyway. with a little creativity, u may have created another bread of rare/ unheard of rifle. thx for your input, but i will look somemore. i been wanting to do this for a few year now. will but it on the back burner until i find a way or somebody that know some info.

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              • #22
                AJAX22
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2006
                • 14980

                7.62x54 heavy machine gun barrels are available, the round started out as a heavy machine gun cartridge and was only adopted for infantry use afterwards (IIRC)

                I believe the us barrels are different bore (slightly) than the russians, you might want to check with someone who has the actual dimensions.
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                • #23
                  M. Sage
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 19759

                  Just a couple of things... A .30 cal MG isn't heavy. And 7.62x54R hit the "scene" in 1891. Like .30-06, it was a rifle cartridge first.

                  I hadn't caught the bore difference, though. Good catch. .30-06's bullet diameter is .308. 7.62x54R uses a bullet .311 in diameter.
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                  • #24
                    Steveo
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 53

                    The machinegun barrel to use is the Maxim, they're 7.62x54R. I bought one several years ago after reading an article about custom target rifles that the Finn's built. My long-term project is still in the works.
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                    • #25
                      guimus
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 862

                      hmmm...I'd probably be interested in building one of these, too...sounds like a decent place to drop a couple hundred dollars.

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