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  • gn3hz3ku1*
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    • Jul 2006
    • 4276

    WW2 Pacific Theather chinese Mauser Broomhandle

    Does anyone know where i can find one of these?

    also is this a "assault weapon"? since the mag is not part of the handle?

    Thanks calguns
    Last edited by gn3hz3ku1*; 02-02-2007, 4:12 PM.
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    pogo
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 588

    I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will weigh in, but I gather that broomhandles are OK here, since I've seen California gunstores selling them.

    The auction sites have 'em, but I'd hesitate to commit to one without handling it. Condition on some of these can be pretty rough, and it's a good idea to check the bolt stop area for excessive battering and deformation due to weak springs.

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      gn3hz3ku1*
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      • Jul 2006
      • 4276

      what gun stores? yes i would like to handle and maybe test fire it.. esp since it can range from 40 to 100 years old? i think its also called the model 96--- 1896?

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      • #4
        M. Sage
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        • Jul 2006
        • 19759

        I don't think the mag outside the grip counts, since you have to top load it... usually. There were some detachable-mag versions. Is the Chinese C96 chambered for 7.63x25mm or in 9x19mm?

        If you get one MAKE SURE you don't get 7.62x25mm Tokarev ammo. Make VERY sure it's 7.63x25mm Mauser. The Tokarev cartridge has the same dimensions, just a different rim, but pistols chambered in .30 Mauser will chamber and fire (and explode) .30 Tokarev, which has much higher pressures.



        OOoo, according to this article, some of the Chinese Mausers were chambered for .45 ACP. Sweet.

        +1 to handling it before buying. I wouldn't consider buying one of these sight unseen given the age and the probable quality control issues being that it's from China and all.
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        • #5
          wilit
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          • Dec 2005
          • 5203

          Broomhandle Mausers are C&R which are exempt from stupid CA handgun law.
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          • #6
            Full Clip
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            • Dec 2006
            • 10260

            I've seen them at Martin Rettings in Culter City... but never dared look at the prices!

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            • #7
              fal_762x51
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              • Nov 2005
              • 2694

              Stumpy at Santa Fe Gun in Palmdale had one.
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              • #8
                M. Sage
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                • Jul 2006
                • 19759

                Originally posted by wilit
                Broomhandle Mausers are C&R which are exempt from stupid CA handgun law.
                Yeah the approved roster, but C&R doesn't trump AW, does it?
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                • #9
                  gn3hz3ku1*
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 4276

                  yea im fairly sure CR does not trump AW.. since im sure that the "tommy gun" in semi mode would make some people at DOJ scared the mod will take over ca

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                  • #10
                    Dr. Peter Venkman
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                    • Oct 2006
                    • 4899

                    I know that C & R does not trump the importation of assault weapons. As to whether or not that means we can own really old ones, no idea. I'd imagine we'd have to pay the huge tax and registration anyways, which we can't in California.
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                    • #11
                      wilit
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 5203

                      Well, the broom-handle is listed in the HSC how-to safety course. I'm pretty sure it's not considered an AW because it is a Curio, hence the C&R status.
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                      • #12
                        pogo
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 588

                        Originally posted by gnehzekul
                        what gun stores? yes i would like to handle and maybe test fire it.. esp since it can range from 40 to 100 years old? i think its also called the model 96--- 1896?
                        I saw a few (not chinese) at Rettings, as Full Clip suggested they're expensive there, around $2K and up, I also saw a consignment broomhandle at Turners once. Hope you find one, Chris

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                        • #13
                          Mssr. Eleganté
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 10401

                          Originally posted by wilit
                          I'm pretty sure it's not considered an AW because it is a Curio, hence the C&R status.
                          As mentioned before, there is no C&R exemption to the A/W ban. But as M. Sage has already pointed out, even though Broomhandle Mausers have a magazine outside of the pistol grip, most of them have fixed magazines, so they don't fall under the California A/W ban.

                          To recap...

                          -The C96's C&R status exempts it from California's "roster/drop test" requirements.
                          -The C96's fixed magazine exempts it from Calfornia's A/W ban on semi-auto pistols with detachable mags outside of the grip.
                          Last edited by Mssr. Eleganté; 02-03-2007, 5:50 PM.
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                          • #14
                            wilit
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 5203

                            Originally posted by Amendment II
                            As mentioned before, there is no C&R exemption to the A/W ban. But as M. Sage has already pointed out, even though Broomhandle Mausers have a magazine outside of the pistol grip, most of them have fixed magazines, so they don't fall under the California A/W ban.

                            To recap...

                            -The C96's C&R status exempts it from California's "roster/drop test" requirements.
                            -The C96's fixed magazine exempts it from Calfornia's A/W ban on semi-auto pistols with detachable mags outside of the grip.
                            Whoops, missed that they had fixed mags. Yep. No AW still.
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                            • #15
                              69Mach1
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 15032

                              gnehzekul, I just PM'd you the location of a shop where I just recently saw a Broom Handle Mauser. I don't know the specifics though, except that I think the owner said it was $1300. Call.

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