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  • camshaw
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13

    two old guns

    can anybody help identify these two guns,one I know is a japanese ww2 rifle and the black powder flintlock is? I'm trying to get some idea of the age of the black powder and the value of the two to sell them. I'm not a gun expert and could use some help from you knowledgeable collectors, I'd be open to trades also?? thanks,cameron..
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    Spiggy
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2006
    • 8688

    the first one is an arisaka outside of military configuration. Tempted to say late transitional, but the stock is awkward in that it looks like a T38 and not a T99

    we'll need pictures of the bore, action, barrel, stock, complete photos of each.

    These on the fly photos won't work.
    Originally posted by AJAX22
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    • #3
      Milsurp Collector
      Calguns Addict
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2009
      • 5884

      Top one is a Type 38 Arisaka (6.5 mm) with a replacement (non-Japanese) stock.
      Revolvers are not pistols

      pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
      Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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      • #4
        Woodymyster
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 418

        The Arisaka has been sportized by cutting the stock which would decrease the price of the rifle.
        Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
        Top one is a Type 38 Arisaka (6.5 mm) with a replacement (non-Japanese) stock.
        I dont know if the stock is a replacement because it looks just like the old 6.5arisaka t-38 rifle stocks, but I could be wrong. However if that dust cover is orginal, the gun is worth a little more. The arisakas have been rising in price for some unknown reason and I would expect that rifle be around $150+, but its hard to say because of that sportized stock. Also more pics of the receiver and bore are needed to get a real estimate.
        southsac916
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        • #5
          Milsurp Collector
          Calguns Addict
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          Originally posted by Woodymyster
          The Arisaka has been sportized by cutting the stock which would decrease the price of the rifle.


          I dont know if the stock is a replacement because it looks just like the old 6.5arisaka t-38 rifle stocks, but I could be wrong.
          Original Japanese stocks had a distinctive two-piece construction that had two advantages
          • More efficient use of the wood blank with less waste
          • The grain of the bottom piece of the buttstock ran parallel to the bottom of the buttstock, instead of parallel to the long axis of the stock. That greatly reduced the tendency for the toe of the buttstock to chip off.


          The joint between the two pieces of wood in a original Arisaka buttstock is often mistaken for a crack.



          The exception to Japanese rifles having two-piece stock construction are non-firing trainers.
          Revolvers are not pistols

          pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
          Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

          ExitCalifornia.org

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          • #6
            a1c
            CGSSA Coordinator
            • Oct 2009
            • 9098

            Last edited by a1c; 10-27-2009, 4:23 PM.
            WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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            • #7
              camshaw
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 13

              awesome!

              you guys are great,here's more pics,email me direct at...........................calicam_71@hotmail.co m .......and I can send you more pics,thanks for all the help, I want to get rid of them,just would like to know what they are and see them get into the right hands of somebody who will appreciate them...
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              • #8
                locktime
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 1114

                The Arisaka looks like a smooth bore training rifle. They frequently had one piece stocks.

                Take some photos of the receiver markings, or look down the barrel and see if it has any rifling.
                Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.
                - Montesquieu

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                • #9
                  Spiggy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 8688

                  we need pictures of the metal dude.

                  examples:
                  -Action


                  -Action from Above


                  -Profile


                  showing us 2-3 pictures of trigger guard, hammer, and the bottom of the wood doesn't tell us whole a lot
                  Last edited by Spiggy; 10-27-2009, 7:30 PM.
                  Originally posted by AJAX22
                  Anti gun BS...

                  Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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                  • #10
                    Sampachi
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 812

                    That Arisaka is odd. The safety is last ditch style and the rear sight is a peep sight, so I'd lean towards it being a Type 99... but... I too think it could be a Bubba-fied Trainer.

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                    • #11
                      Milsurp Collector
                      Calguns Addict
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5884

                      Magazine catch/triggerguard, rear sight, and rear sling swivel are Type 38. Bolt body is in the white like a Type 38. I agree that better pictures, like the top of the receiver ring, and series/serial number/arsenal on the left side of the receiver would make it less of a guessing game.
                      Revolvers are not pistols

                      pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                      Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                      ExitCalifornia.org

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                      • #12
                        Woodymyster
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 418

                        Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
                        Original Japanese stocks had a distinctive two-piece construction that had two advantages
                        Gotcha, thanks for the correction
                        southsac916
                        When you are done with toys, get a Glock.
                        AlbcAlbrr
                        When you're done with the tupperware, get a Sig.

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                        • #13
                          Spiggy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 8688

                          Originally posted by Sampachi
                          That Arisaka is odd. The safety is last ditch style and the rear sight is a peep sight, so I'd lean towards it being a Type 99... but... I too think it could be a Bubba-fied Trainer.
                          I agree dude, I may have to visit him and take a look for myself. Garden Grove isn't too far
                          Originally posted by AJAX22
                          Anti gun BS...

                          Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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