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You're pretty close to making the rifle "correct" if you wanted to hunt the parts down and trade on boards like CMP you would increase the value. The hardest (and most expensive) part to get correct would be the stock. Is there any other cartouches on the stock other than the RRA rebuild stamp? A correct rifle with matching stock will bump the value over $1000.Comment
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Damn, how can you tell the stock is incorrect? Is the RRA stamp a rip-off as well?
I'll look for other stamps, but I don't believe there are any other than a white square by the rear sling swivel.
In it's current state, what could I get for it? From the low end to high end. $800-$950?
Thanks,
JasonStrong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general - Mark RippetoeComment
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"I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be damn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble."~ John Wayne ~When they come a wull staun ma groon...
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid...
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I can't tell by the photos if the stock is correct or not but the RRA is a common stamp meaning that the rifle has been through a re-arsenal. So it could be an original stock with a RRA stamp being added to it later or it could be a plain jane replacement stock with a RRA stamp.
If you can find a SA/GAW with Small Ordnance Wheel with 3/16" Ordnance Escutcheon on the grip you have a winner (it would be original or at least correct). Check the left side of the stock near the grip, if it's there, it's likely to be very faded.
In it's current state I would tag it from low to high as $600-$800. There are always impulsive, unknowledgeable buyers who may pay above $1000 but if you were to market it to people "in the know" I would say 600-800 is about right.Comment
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The rifle is perfect. It is exactly what it is , likely without tampering.
That makes it a valuable historic artifact. Market price in dollars is a different issue.
The rifle is a great example of an "as issued " M1 Garand that was rebuilt after WW2. The kind of rifle that the Allied nations used in Korea.
Most early ( pre-1950's) barrels have not survived because of corrosive ammo and hard use under harsh conditions." ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
Tony from New York .
Conflict Resolution 201:
Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
Don't MESS with US !Comment
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Ditto ^ Do not mess with that rifle!! It is a very nice example of a Garand from the post WWII clean and repair program. Too many of these rifles have been made "correct" with the addition of a few parts. Don't make that mistake. You will turn a nice historic weapon into just another parts gun with no value beyond the sum total of it's parts.The rifle is perfect. It is exactly what it is , likely without tampering.
That makes it a valuable historic artifact. Market price in dollars is a different issue.
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Originally Posted by Jason762
Damn, how can you tell the stock is incorrect? Is the RRA stamp a rip-off as well?
I'll look for other stamps, but I don't believe there are any other than a white square by the rear sling swivel.
In it's current state, what could I get for it? From the low end to high end. $800-$950?
Thanks,
Jason
The rifle is a great example of an "as issued " M1 Garand that was rebuilt after WW2. The kind of rifle that the Allied nations used in Korea.
Most early ( pre-1950's) barrels have not survived because of corrosive ammo and hard use under harsh conditions.sigpicComment
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Didn't see that symbol but on the bottom of the pistol grip was something like this:
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Basically a P inside a square "C".
Didn't plan on messing with it any. It's my first rifle ever, and I'm having a hard time deciding what to do with it.
I either want to trade it for a Glock 17 or 19 + rebuild kits, sell it for the highest amount I can get (looking like $900) or keeping it.
It never gets fired, and I have a tendency to throw out/sell unused objects. But like I said, it's my first rifle; and as sentimental value to me.
Decisions, decisions...Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general - Mark RippetoeComment
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The P mark under the grip is a proof stamp, most if not all arsenaled stocks have these.
As for the 2 other posters above, it really doesn't matter if you switch the parts around because odds are that this rifle has been re-arsenaled several times. If the rifle made its way to you via CMP --> private party ---> You, then it's likely more parts were replaced or swaped. Basically what I'm saying is there is no way to tell if this rifle is "untouched" since being re-arsenled the 1st time after it was original. But to let you know it may not be worth all of the trouble to hunt down "correct parts" just to bump it up 100 bucks or so. Usually when people do this they do it for the fun of hunting down the parts and not for adding value.Comment
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History is history. Switching parts based on " book correct " doesn't increase the value of the parts. I can't claim any moral purity in this area: I have sold my share of " Collector Restoration Parts " sometimes at unreal prices that made obscene profits.
It's very possible to tell the real deal from a fake with some fairly high ( but varying ) degree of certainty. It's an art that takes experience.
No knowledgable buyer will pay more more than the sum of parts for a " humped " rifle .
The only way to make money humping historic guns is to misrepresent -- actively or passively -- what the gun really is.
FWIW and YMMV." ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
Tony from New York .
Conflict Resolution 201:
Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
Don't MESS with US !Comment
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Well, I've got it up for trade, but for 7 days only...
Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general - Mark RippetoeComment
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You're not understanding.
People take mixmasters and try and hunt down parts to make all of the parts period correct, hence the tern "correct grade". This means that the parts may not all be original but all of them are stamped with what they should be. People who buy correct grade Garands understand (or they should) that the parts probably aren't original.
Then we have "original rifles" that are as issued as is and all of the parts are matching. Guns represented as original should never have parts swapped out. Selling a gun that has been forced correct and passing it off as original is morally wrong and dishonest.
Yes, people do pay more for "correct rifles", people also pay more, a lot more, for original rifles.
As a reference I would say roughly a WW2 dated Garand breaks down as follows:
Mixmaster : 600-800
Correct: 900-1000
Original 1800-2200
There are a lot of variables that go into value like date of manufacture, condition, and market value but I think you get the picture.Comment
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Absolutely brilliant marketing strategy!"I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be damn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble."~ John Wayne ~When they come a wull staun ma groon...
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid...
"Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Abandon Another"Comment
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