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  • #16
    hifiguns
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 269

    Make sure that the recoil spring isn't backward. The curly end goes forward into the bolt carrier, leaving the straight end exposed.

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    • #17
      GSequoia
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 1356

      Originally posted by Mr Wizard
      I have a russian SKS that will eat anything I put in it, but my Yugo won't cycle anything but Golden Tiger ammo. Can't figure that one out..
      Mine too. The Yugo is picky and HATES Wolf. Mine cycles the Tiger well and, of course, Yugo Surplus (brass case) very well.

      The fact that it's difficult to pull the bolt back suggest this is your problem. What kind of ammunition were you using?
      Alot isn't a word and allot isn't the word you think it is.

      I'd really like a Colt 1903 frame, bad finish okay!
      I'm also looking for a good deal on a 1911 frame or two for budget/spare parts builds.

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      • #18
        Lucky Scott
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 2604

        Shooting the M67 stuff. I think it is Yugoslavian.
        Non-Magnetic, range friendly stuff with a brass case.
        It is corrosive but the Yugo should love it.

        So the Gas valve is actually just a deverter. Not a valve at all.

        I have another SKS and it works perfect so I took the valve out and compared them.
        The good valve seems to be a couple thousand bigger around. Perhaps it seals better by fitting in the housing better.

        I also noticed that the hole that lines up with the hole in the barrel is bigger in my good valve. Maybe I can drill out or modify the bad valve?

        Got a link to a trick making a seal out of a paper clip.

        I did the paper clip trick and will try it out next time I go shooting. I will try the paper clip valve, and then try the good valve and see if it works in the problem SKS

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        • #19
          CHS
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          Originally posted by Lucky Scott
          I did the paper clip trick and will try it out next time I go shooting. I will try the paper clip valve, and then try the good valve and see if it works in the problem SKS
          You mentioned that it's very hard to pull the bolt back, so why do you keep concentrating on the gas system and gas valve?

          I'm betting that's not the problem.
          Please read the Calguns Wiki
          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          • #20
            Lucky Scott
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2604

            "You mentioned that it's very hard to pull the bolt back, so why do you keep concentrating on the gas system and gas valve?

            I'm betting that's not the problem."


            You may be right, I am not sure at this point but am trying to eliminate what the problem could be. Sure, I can take it to a gunsmith, and may eventually, but if I mess with it a little maybe I can figure it out and learn something in the process.

            I am thinking gas system because the bolt is only hard to pull back after it fires. Otherwise it moves fine. I think its hard to pull back because the spent casing is halfway back in the camber and jamming it up with the next round. The bolt may be manually pulling the cartridge back.
            But not enough to fully cycle.

            Like I said, I am not sure, but if I take it to the range and try another gas valve and it works better that will tell me something. If no better, I will look elsewhere. Since I have another SKS I can try the valve from the SKS that is working good and see if it makes a difference.

            Hey, I can be totally wrong, but I have learned alot about the SKS platform so far, and am still learning. I have gotten a lot of help from CalGunners and appreciate the advice.

            Life's a journey!

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            • #21
              Tmac
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 257

              Many, Many of the Yugo's have this problem. It is leaking where the gas tube and block push together. The paper clip thing will most likely work, it does not have to be a paper clip, I use electric fence wire. Just form it in a little circle making a metal gasket and fit it in there.

              And then don't tell anybody, this is the best way I know to pick up cheap Yugo SKS's that are "Broken".....

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              • #22
                GSequoia
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 1356

                I highly highly doubt it has anything to do with the gas valve, piston, operating rod, or gas tube.

                Clean your chamber!

                You're having a hard time pulling the bolt back, this suggests that the case is getting stuck to the chamber. My guess would be a bunch of layers of lacquer from lacquered steel cases being run through it.

                The only reason I didn't say this to begin with was that I suspected you were running Wolf, even after cleaning the hell out of my 59/66's chamber it just plain won't cycle Wolf ammo, it always gets stuck in the chamber. If you're having trouble cycling Yugo surplus it's not the ammunitions fault, that's good stuff!
                Alot isn't a word and allot isn't the word you think it is.

                I'd really like a Colt 1903 frame, bad finish okay!
                I'm also looking for a good deal on a 1911 frame or two for budget/spare parts builds.

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                • #23
                  rogdigity
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 911

                  i know my sks is only a chinese and all, but i had crystalized cozmo on the bolt and had to get it off before i could work it freely. i didnt test fire it until after i had done that though. in fact, i opened mine up to clean the cozmo out and found it didnt even have a recoil spring or recoil rod.

                  i did have some trouple with my m44 nagant not wanting to 'let go' of casings after being fired. same deal there, crystalized cozmo in the chamber. to clean it i had to fire a bit through it to heat it, then quickly pop the bolt and scrub scrub scrub and dry dry dry and then fire again a few times and repeat. i had to do this a few times
                  "I suppose i can part with one and still be feared..." -Prof. Hubert J. Farnesworth

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                  • #24
                    enginematrix
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 6

                    ETA
                    Last edited by enginematrix; 12-18-2009, 2:38 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Argonaut
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1352

                      Gas valves are open when the button is on the right side.....not on the top.

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                      • #26
                        rogdigity
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 911

                        edited because enginematrix is letting the man get him down
                        Last edited by rogdigity; 12-18-2009, 10:51 PM.
                        "I suppose i can part with one and still be feared..." -Prof. Hubert J. Farnesworth

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                        • #27
                          SJgunguy24
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2008
                          • 14849

                          Strip the rifle down, leave the trigger pack as one unit but remove it.
                          Pull the gas tube, and piston. Get the op rod and spring out. Take the bolt apart, it sucks but you need to inspect the firing pin and pin channel. Get the firing pin spring kit, trust me on this one.

                          Get q tips, pipe cleaners, rags, tooth brushes and what ever you clean guns with.

                          Leave the hoppes #9 for later. Get Isopropanol Alcohol or De natured Alcohol. Go through and clean everything. Focus on the OP rod guide. I can't count how many times people leave that out. The gun is spotless, but the op rod channel will be packed with Cosmo. Also look for pitting on the gas valve.
                          I've had a number of Yugo 59/66's and I install the firing pin spring kits and replace the OE gas blocks with stainless blocks.
                          There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                          The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                          The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                          The others, well......they just never learn.

                          "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                          Patrick Henry.

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                          • #28
                            rogdigity
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 911

                            i also have had success with boiling a pan of water and dropping the bolt assembly in. it got out pretty much all but trace amounts of cozmo. same could be done for the operating rod i guess if you have a big enough pan. i however dont. my wife went to culinary school and she would kill me if i effed up her nice pans, so i had to go buy a little cheapo pan at the store and didnt think to get a big enough one for things like that...

                            which leads me to my next investment: one of those hand held steam cleaners! i have heard lots of people have great things to say about these removing cozmo.
                            "I suppose i can part with one and still be feared..." -Prof. Hubert J. Farnesworth

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                            • #29
                              strangerdude
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1762

                              Probably the gas valve, but be very careful, I once chambered a round and without pulling the trigger it went full auto and unloaded the entire mag, luckily I was at the range.

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                              • #30
                                rogdigity
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 911

                                pretty much every time i have heard of an SKS slam firing, or going full auto, has been a dirty bolt and/or firing pin. i have noticed most SKSs i have broken down have been cleaned good, but that the bolts have not. something to keep an eye out for
                                "I suppose i can part with one and still be feared..." -Prof. Hubert J. Farnesworth

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