Ammo Increase/Perry Problem

[Clancy]

Gentlemen,
In the first file you will find that Ordnance is going to increase ammo for the M1 Garand and other ammo of major types. Remember, WW2 has all ready started.
In this second file will find that the M1 Garand got a lot of BAD Press the last time at Camp Perry, 1939 and this time Ordnance wants to show that the M1 Garand is fine.

GUYS I NEED SOME OF YOUR INPUT TIA

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Gentlemen you know what to do.

Thanks again
Clancy

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[dw1784]

Capt. Brown to Lt.Col. Kirk:
"Keep your fingers crossed and pray that you haven't sent me any punk followers or something fancy going wrong with them like you did last year. I don't believe I can stand the strain of having the followers jump around in the gun again this year."

thanks Clancy got a chuckle out of that one!

it's hard to believe with war going that,
1) the navy has no idea how much ammo it has in inventory.
2) Aug of 1940, Ordance dept is still fighting an "unfavorable" public opinion of the Garand rifle.
3) you think Camp Perry attendees and participants would be more understanding knowing recent applied linseed oil will smoke when heated with prolong sustained firing.

Makes you wonder about the level of prepardness and unforseen scale and length of war to come.

[M. Sage]

They aren't in "war mode" yet because the US hasn't entered yet. We were helping out some of our allies, but the S hadn't HTF just yet.

Interesting stuff, as always!

Sounds like a lot of that unfavorable opinion came from the oiled stocks smoking like SOBs when the rifles got hot. Smoke doesn't mean the gun's gonna break, it's just kind of... disturbing, I would suppose. Not to mention semi-autos being the newest thing, they hadn't yet earned the level of trust they have now. FWIW, it took a few armies MANY years beyond this letter to get semi-autos that were worth a crap, or if they had them, to implement training that made them work well.

Soviet SVT-38 - Crappy, not reliable, somewhat because of poor training.

German G41 - POS design from the get-go...

Soviet SVT-40 - Good to great design, horribly-trained troops carrying it gave it a bad rep.

German G43 - Copied much of the good from the SVT-40, but when German engineers are involved... they can't solve a simple problem without a complex solution. G43 suffered because of this, an outright copy would have been better. A good rifle, to be sure, but I've heard they're a bit "fragile."

Question for Clancy:

I had to look up what a "Gas Trap" was. The article I found mentioned it was a "Bang" design feature. The above-mentioned G41 used a Bang-type gas system, though with an annular piston instead of a regular piston like you find in a Garand or what have you. Being that the gas system was credited with at least part of the reliability problems of the G41, could the Gas Trap M1s have had similar issues?

I don't know how much of the G41's problem stemmed from the annular piston (annular; like a donut. The piston went AROUND the barrel), though.