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  • Metal God
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 1839

    Can you still have a long gun shipped to you ?

    After 2015 and the passage of PC-27585. which states

    (a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless he or she first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.
    (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to or affect any of the following:
    (1) A licensed collector who is subject to and complies with Section 27565.
    I ask because of the high lighted section here

    Penal Code 27565
    CA PC 27565 provides an exemption to CA PC 27585 and allows licensed collectors to bring C&R firearms obtained outside of California in person. Shipping C&R firearms directly is prohibited since 1/1/2015 when AB-1609 went into effect.

    I've read threads posted after 1/1/2015 that seem to say you can still have long guns shipped to your home ?
    Tolerate
    allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

    Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

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    G-forceJunkie
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2010
    • 6291

    No, although some claim its a grey area. Look at the two forms available for you to register the new longgun on CFARS, one is for weapons obtained inside california. The other is for weapons you purchased outside of california, took posession of outside of California, and brought them across the border into California. Neither would work for having a C&R shipped to you so you would have to lie on one of them to use it.

    Read all of 27565, particulary (a) (4).

    (a) This section applies in the following circumstances:
    (1) A person is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
    (2) The licensed premises of that person are within this state.
    (3) The licensed collector acquires, outside of this state, a handgun, and commencing January 1, 2014, any firearm.
    (4) The licensed collector takes actual possession of that firearm outside of this state pursuant to the provisions of subsection (j) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code, as amended by Public Law 104-208, and transports the firearm into this state.
    (5) The firearm is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
    (b) Within five days of transporting a firearm into this state under the circumstances described in subdivision (a), the licensed collector shall report the acquisition of that firearm to the department in a format prescribed by the department.

    The grey area is some people are claiming that "Actual Possession" is achieved when you buy and pay for a gun over say the phone or internet since you now have a controlling interest in it and what happens to it. Personally I don't read it as such.
    Last edited by G-forceJunkie; 03-18-2024, 6:58 PM.

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      05-25-2022: Can CA C&R holders still receive C&R long guns direct?

      Penal Code 27585
      (a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless he or she first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.
      (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to or affect any of the following:
      (1) A licensed collector who is subject to and complies with Section 27565.

      Penal Code 27565
      (a) This section applies in the following circumstances:
      (1) A person is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
      (2) The licensed premises of that person are within this state.
      (3) The licensed collector acquires, outside of this state, a handgun, and commencing January 1, 2014, any firearm.
      (4) The licensed collector takes actual possession of that firearm outside of this state pursuant to the provisions of subsection (j) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code, as amended by Public Law 104-208, and transports the firearm into this state.
      (5) The firearm is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
      (b) Within five days of transporting a firearm into this state under the circumstances described in subdivision (a), the licensed collector shall report the acquisition of that firearm to the department in a format prescribed by the department.
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      • #4
        Metal God
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 1839

        Didn’t think so . The thing Inhear is the buyer ( person in CA ) does not take actual “possession”until they have in there hands . Which seems like a reach to me especially when the statute states you can not import the firearm . Winning an auction or Buying it then giving the out of state person your address to send the firearm sure sounds like importing to me .

        Thanks guys for confirming what I believed to be true
        Tolerate
        allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

        Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

        I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again

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