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  • Oldmandan
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2721

    Question about Uberti black powder Colt repros

    About 2 months ago I received an Uberti 2nd Dragoon, that upon arrival was locked up solid. Couldn't pull the hammer back at all. I removed the wedge, and that freed it up. But every time I put the wedge back in, it would lock up again. Tolerances were too tight on it.

    I sent it in for repair, and they told me it wasn't fixable and they were out of them, currently waiting for the replacement to arrive from Italy...

    Today, I received another gun, this time an Uberti 1861 Navy and it's got the same issue.

    Is it just my bad luck? Or, is this a common thing with Uberti's?

    Is there a fix for this? Or am I stuck sending it in again?
    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them" - Richard Henry Lee

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    Yetiultimate
    Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 225

    Is there a cylinder gap? I like mine around 0.005?. Open tops are pretty simple pistols, but tuning the wedge can be a pain sometimes. I recently had to fit a new wedge into my ASM 1860 and it took a while. Try honing down the left side of your wedge to give the cylinder a little room when its all installed. Can you remove the wedge easily or has it been pounded in by the Uberti gorilla? Not uncommon?
    Last edited by Yetiultimate; 11-10-2023, 3:47 PM.

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    • #3
      Tom-ADC
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 3614

      Originally posted by Oldmandan
      About 2 months ago I received an Uberti 2nd Dragoon, that upon arrival was locked up solid. Couldn't pull the hammer back at all. I removed the wedge, and that freed it up. But every time I put the wedge back in, it would lock up again. Tolerances were too tight on it.

      I sent it in for repair, and they told me it wasn't fixable and they were out of them, currently waiting for the replacement to arrive from Italy...

      Today, I received another gun, this time an Uberti 1861 Navy and it's got the same issue.

      Is it just my bad luck? Or, is this a common thing with Uberti's?

      Is there a fix for this? Or am I stuck sending it in again?
      Give Gary and call or better yet send them to him, nobody better getting these to run great. Does great conversion work also.

      US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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      • #4
        Oldmandan
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2721

        No cylinder gap when the wedge is tapped in. After reading on the www, I think you’re right about fitting the wedge
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        • #5
          kendog4570
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2008
          • 5180

          Cylinder gap is controlled by the bearing of the nose of the cylinder base pin on its seat in the barrel. The wedge just holds it all together.

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          • #6
            shakerman
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 8

            every open top i have ever had, including second generation colts, you have to be careful how far you drive in the wedge. drive it in until there is a minimum gap and the cylinder rotates freely ,then shoot it.

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            • #7
              Darto
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2012
              • 6497

              Originally posted by kendog4570
              Cylinder gap is controlled by the bearing of the nose of the cylinder base pin on its seat in the barrel. The wedge just holds it all together.


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              • #8
                Darto
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2012
                • 6497

                Cap jams?

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                • #9
                  Darto
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 6497

                  If you ever have seen those expensive deluxe "old west" finishes... here's blackie doing it himself (white vinegar).




                  Or Blackie on everything percussion revolvers:

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                  • #10
                    Darto
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 6497

                    As was said above, the wedge never goes in all the way, it will lock the gun. On a perfectly adjusted gun, you can just push the wedge in with thumb, and tap it out with palm of hand. But these aren't real Colts so at least I have to use a hammer (plastic face) and tap in and out (lightly). No way I could tune up the pistol perfectly. In the old centuries, labor was cheap and Colt could afford to pay someone to closely adjust every gun before they sold it.

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                    • #11
                      M76
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 5954

                      Get an 1858, no more wedgies

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                      • #12
                        Oldmandan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 2721

                        After fiddling with it awhile, I realized the arbor is too short. I put a .072? washer in it and it works fine now. Gap is .002?

                        The wedge barely fits at all now, very tight. I think shooting it some may be what it needs
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                        • #13
                          smle-man
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10580

                          Originally posted by Darto
                          As was said above, the wedge never goes in all the way, it will lock the gun. On a perfectly adjusted gun, you can just push the wedge in with thumb, and tap it out with palm of hand. But these aren't real Colts so at least I have to use a hammer (plastic face) and tap in and out (lightly). No way I could tune up the pistol perfectly. In the old centuries, labor was cheap and Colt could afford to pay someone to closely adjust every gun before they sold it.
                          The wedge in my Uberti 1872 is so tight it needs forceful usevof a nylon tipped hammer to remove and install but the cylinder turns fine

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                            kendog4570
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5180

                            Originally posted by Darto



                            The Blackster hits on one or two pertinent points with regards to this 180 year old design, once you pick them out through all the corn pone....

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                              Oldmandan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2721

                              Originally posted by kendog4570
                              The Blackster hits on one or two pertinent points with regards to this 180 year old design, once you pick them out through all the corn pone....
                              His videos helped me figure it out
                              Last edited by Oldmandan; 11-12-2023, 7:41 AM.
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