Garand questions

[steelrain82]

original post has been edited. PICS NOW ADDED

But I'm trying to see if I can get a base value of a sa m1 garand.

my dad got this off an old vet awhile back and its been collecting dust for about 10-15yrs in his closet. he's cleaned it from time to time but not in awhile. so itll show some dust in the pics. and hasnt been cleaned.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

...all matching numbers...

What do you mean by "all matching numbers"?

[steelrain82]

Oh sorry all the manufacture numbers match. Everything is original. An old vet died and his wife sold my dad the garand and a 1911 everything is suppossedly from his service time

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Oh sorry all the manufacture numbers match.

Can you be more specific?

[steelrain82]

yeah I'll just post it up in the pics my dads looking into selling some stuff so this is what he told me over the phone Ill get pics of everything in the morning

[thefifthspeed]

If all of the numbers are "matching" and the finish on the rifle is blueing the rifle isn't original. Garands were originally assembled from batches of parts and you want to look for corresponding drawing numbers to the date of the receiver. Usually the hardest part to find original on a Garand is the stock. Most of the "all original" Garands had their stocks swapped out from wear and tear. Anyway this is a great site to determine if your rifle is correct:

http://battlerifle0.tripod.com/id3.html

If the rifle is truely original, depending on condition you're looking at 1,600-2000 on up.
For a correct garand you're looking at about 1,200ish
If it turns out to be a mixmaster you're in the ballpark of 650-800

[steelrain82]

ok so im gonna put the pics up in the first post. for the most part everything on the list on that website was correct a few parts were the right number but for earlier serial numbers and a part or two were in between two lots like the 8th vartiation i assume. the one post war part is the bolt. it has pretty good rifleing. i couldnt see the bore shine because i forgot the borelight. but all in all everything was war time manufacture. so im assuming they needed replacement parts and put spare lot parts on it.

[thefifthspeed]

We'll if the bolt is incorrect the best you could shoot for is selling it as a correct grade if you were to find someone that has that bolt and if it has a similar park. I can't see from the pictures but does the stock have a correct cartouche (It would be on the other side of the stock from what you took pictures)? If it does you could probably get $1,200 for it give or take if all of the parts are correct. If the stock isn't correct and is a replacement you could probably get $800-1000. The sling adds a bit more value as well.

Overall it's a good looking Garand. Have you shot it?

[steelrain82]

no cartouche so im thinking either worn off or its a replacement. my dad shot it said its great but i just got it off of him. i want to start practicing for the garand comps so i figured i might as well get this one. yeah the sling is really nice

[thefifthspeed]

You can always try to clean the stock with some mineral spirits to see if a cartouche is visible. Also if you have access to muzzle wear and throat erosion gauges that would help determine the value more. If you don't have access to those tools you can always take a picture of an M2 Ball round stuck in the muzzle.

[NRAhighpowershooter]

it looks to have a few early parts.. curved op rod, milled handguard clip(getting hard to find) Missing the stacking swivel though....

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Me sees lock-bar sights.

[steelrain82]

yeah I have to replace the stacking swivel. and yes it has the lockbar sights. most of the parts are proper for the year of manufacture but a few parts are from previous years.

[tony1970]

From your pictures I am seeing something that tells me your Garand may have been through a rebuild. The barrel chamber face looks like it is not "In the white". Meaning the barrel chamber face has been parkerized, and is not raw metal. This is from the barrel and receiver being reparkerized at one time by the government. I could be wrong, hard to tell form the picture. It looks like you have Type 3 lockbars, and a very early grooved hand guard clip, very cool. Is the gas plug missing? Looks like you have a very nice Garand, and if the barrel is in good shape it should be a great shooter.

[steelrain82]

it has the plug i was learning hot to take it apart and i forgot the plug while i was taking the pictures.