Mosin for sale

[golfish]

Hey fellas, I've had this one for sale for a few weeks. It's been a long time since I researched these guns. There's so much to consider.

Looking at the numbers, they all seem to match...if that matters.

Am I way off on pricing this gun and ammo?

Thank you

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=28158441#post28158441

[19K]

Hey fellas, I've had this one for sale for a few weeks. It's been a long time since I researched these guns. There's so much to consider.

Looking at the numbers, they all seem to match...if that matters.

Am I way off on pricing this gun and ammo?

Thank you

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...1#post28158441

It?s a good price in todays market especially with all that ammo.

but actual collectors will think it?s overpriced. I think it?s fair but I wouldn?t buy it lol.

[golfish]

Thanks 19K

I'll let it ride for a while. I won't go any lower, especially the way things are getting.

[Rogerbutthead]

You'll eventually find a buyer.

People who have been collecting for years probably have a number of 79 dollar mosins and piles of 6 cent 7.62x54R. They aren't adjusted to price inflation.

Good luck

[Spyder]

I think it's a perfectly fair price. The buttstock will turn off collectors, but the ammo will attract shooters. Can't get 500 rounds of 30-06 for that price, much less a rifle and the ammo!

[BrokerB]

Terrible pictures. Im not the best , but much better than yours. Look at my link below... id call it a meh price. Not bad, not great. If you want it sold faster, lower it, if not, let it float.

[echo1]

Hold for what you want if you don't need the ducats right now. Like the other cheap SOBs sitting on a stack of Big 5 Mosins have said, goes against our grain, but we'll sell em for that too , good luck, PAX

[MajorSideburns]

The buttplate is not original, and that is normally a serialized part. When collectors see this, the first thing they wonder is what else have you done to bubba the rifle? With the ammo factored into the equation, you are essentially asking about $400 for it. Collectors are not going to be interested in it at that price due to the non-original part and stigma of modification. These are very common rifles and collectors can find all matching original condition examples for $300-$500. If you look in the forum there are other examples in original condition which are not selling at $350. Collectors are finicky about condition and originality. If you still have the original buttplate you should mention that in your listing, it would help you greatly. That's just my opinion as a collector, take it for what it's worth. For me to personally consider it for example, I would have to see a price less than $200. But I already have Mosins in my collection. Maybe a beginning collector would be willing to pay more, who knows. You can always just let your listing sit and see what comes your way.

[golfish]

The buttplate is not original, and that is normally a serialized part. When collectors see this, the first thing they wonder is what else have you done to bubba the rifle?.

I don't think that's a butt plate

I guess I should find the og plate and put it back on for a photo shoot.

I really don't understand the matching numbers thing. When were these numbers stamped on?

They all match but I'm not sure what it means. Couldn't all of these parts have been pulled out of a bin, stamped and then thrown together to build a gun?

[MajorSideburns]

I don't think that's a butt plate

I guess I should find the og plate and put it back on for a photo shoot.

I really don't understand the matching numbers thing. When were these numbers stamped on?

They all match but I'm not sure what it means. Couldn't all of these parts have been pulled out of a bin, stamped and then thrown together to build a gun?

A lot of these older rifles were made in a time where precise mass production wasn't perfected and required some hand fitting to finalize the working product. So a dedicated armory worker would be hand fitting the parts of the bolt together, sanding the stock just right to fit the barrel bands, etc. Not every part necessarily required fitting and I don't know all the reasons serial numbers were stamped on every small part but it was common practice at the time by many military armories. The Germans were particularly meticulous and would serialize the individual screws. So like any collectible, collectors like to see rifles in original condition for the time, which means matching numbered parts. It's part of what makes them more uncommon, it's been 80+ years so over time as the guns change owners, parts get broken, misplaced, replaced and that makes the remaining original condition matching guns more rare and desirable.

Even people who aren't necessarily collectors like to see matching numbers on critical parts like the bolt, because bolts were headspaced by military armorers and it's usually seen as a better guarantee of safety than a mismatched bolt which might not be headspaced properly.

If you think you still have the original buttplate you should definitely go dig it up and if I were you, I would reinstall it and photo the rifle in original configuration, then you can include the aftermarket buttplate as a bonus.

[Donkeypunch0420]

A bit hard to tell, but did the stock get messed with? Shellac removed? Sanded? If so, that will also hurt its collector value.

[echo1]

If you weren't the one to swap out the buut plate for the recoil pad, then likely it's gone. Most butt plates were numbered to the rifle but also many were blank or scrubbed. What MAY help you get you price is if it's Finn marked on the receiver [SA]. Ar that price point it's on the fence the ammo should move it. PAX

[golfish]

If you weren't the one to swap out the buut plate for the recoil pad, then likely it's gone. Most butt plates were numbered to the rifle but also many were blank or scrubbed. What MAY help you get you price is if it's Finn marked on the receiver [SA]. Ar that price point it's on the fence the ammo should move it. PAX

You have no confidence in my, brother

I put the OG plate back on last night. This one is numbered.

A bit hard to tell, but did the stock get messed with? Shellac removed? Sanded? If so, that will also hurt its collector value.

I don't recall why but I did HAVE to strip the OG finish. No sanding, just some of my 1/3rd mixture.

I'm not really concerned about it. It's such a good shooter that I probably should keep it.

Thanks a lot fellas. You're all offered great advice and I've learned from you. It doesn't get any better then you all.

[echo1]

You'll eventually find a buyer.

People who have been collecting for years probably have a number of 79 dollar mosins and piles of 6 cent 7.62x54R. They aren't adjusted to price inflation.

Good luck

^^^That was me to, I had 7. Those babies are great barter fodder. I turned 2 Big 5 Mosins and 2 ATI stocked SKS mixers into an SVT40, straight trade + DROS. The SVT was sitting at $XXXX ducats at a show for some time, the Mosins & SKSs flew off the rack totaling more money than the SVT was listed at. I had $680 in my iron, and I know h seller had $400 in the SVT bought back in the day. I'm down to 2 Finn 91/30s, an M44 & an M38. I'd like to turn a Finn into an M39, or Hakim, or Rasheed or....? PAX

[BrokerB]

Dam good trades

Traded a 91/30 and a spam can of 54r for a Browning a5 12ga. Was bummed though. I cant convert a Japanese Browning a5 into a Rhodesian