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  • AC993
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    • Aug 2020
    • 276

    1st time advice on WWI era guns

    Hello, hope the community is doing well!

    I want to buy my first "old" gun, and I need advice/recommendations on what I should get.

    Little back story on me - I got into guns a few years back, I am heavily into "high quality" guns, I primarily collect handguns - custom 1911's, Atlas/Nighthawk, Custom CZ's, race guns, etc. I'm also heavily into long range rifles, to put into perspective, my first rifle was a Bergara HMR PRO in .308, and then I moved onto a Masterpiece arms 6.5C. Long story short - C&R WWI rifles are FAR FAR FAR out of my "expertise"

    I never thought I would have so much interest in a C&R rifle until two days ago, when a buddy of mine put a Italian Vetterli M1870 in my hands. I cocked the bolt and was in shock as far as how amazing the fitment and quality of the gun felt in my hand. It really put into perspective the old saying "They don't build them like they used to"

    Anyway, having experienced the quality and "coolness" factor of that gun, I now want to own one myself. I really want to buy a high quality WWI era rifle and restore it, not entirely, but just clean one up and go out and shoot it. However, I am stuck on what I should get. Here are some prospects.

    Springfield M1903
    Lee Enfield SMLE
    Mauser 98k
    Mauser M/94 or M/94-14

    Right now, I really love the size, design, and caliber of the M/94, and it is the primary one I am looking into buying. I want to spend no more than $2000, but ideally around $1500 - the gun has to be in shootable condition, with ALL matching serial numbers.

    I am a sucker for high quality, well engineered firearms, and I would love some recommendations of guns I may have over looked. I am not looking for budget friendly alternatives or "almost as good" options. I want a really high quality collectible piece that I can pass down 50-60 years from today.

    Please help!
    Last edited by AC993; 09-24-2023, 8:49 PM.
    AC993

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  • #2
    bigbossman
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2012
    • 11017

    Of that list..... the 1903 hands-down.
    Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

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    • #3
      dfletcher
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2006
      • 14787

      You may want to also look into the Swedish Mauser. Lots of different models to choose from and quality on them, unlike German or Japanese, didn't decline during the war.

      All the rifles you've mentioned have numerous variations. About $1,500.00 should buy a nice condition 1903A3 or Enfield No4.

      You may want to cruise through the C&R section of Gunbroker for ideas and $$$. I think I'd limit my buying to "in person" though.
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      • #4
        SVT-40
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        • Jan 2008
        • 12894

        Look into any South American Mauser. Probably the pinnacle of Mauser production.

        I'll post a few pictures tomorrow.
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        Originally posted by fiddletown
        What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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        • #5
          Tere_Hanges
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2013
          • 6268

          The 98K is not a WWI era firearm.

          You should want the Gewehr 98 if you want it to be from the WWI era.


          Also, don't forget the Mosin-Nagant.


          OP, if you really want a well built C&R milsurp, I highly recommend an M1 Garand from the CMP. Not WWI era, but it is one of the greatest military rifles ever fielded.

          Another Mauser to consider is the Model 1895. I've seen some very fine examples for very reasonable prices. They were produced in Germany and are beautiful guns.
          Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 09-24-2023, 11:42 PM.
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          • #6
            AC993
            Member
            • Aug 2020
            • 276

            Originally posted by bigbossman
            Of that list..... the 1903 hands-down.
            Why so confidently the M1903? Not challenging you, just curious to learn. Thanks!
            AC993

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            - SIG P210 Target
            - Beretta 92X Performance
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            • #7
              AC993
              Member
              • Aug 2020
              • 276

              Originally posted by dfletcher
              You may want to also look into the Swedish Mauser. Lots of different models to choose from and quality on them, unlike German or Japanese, didn't decline during the war.

              All the rifles you've mentioned have numerous variations. About $1,500.00 should buy a nice condition 1903A3 or Enfield No4.

              You may want to cruise through the C&R section of Gunbroker for ideas and $$$. I think I'd limit my buying to "in person" though.
              I wish I could limit it to in person, which is why I was hoping there was a gun store in Los Angeles that specializes in this stuff. Unfortunately, I don't think I have any options here in LA.
              AC993

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              - Browning Hi-Power
              - SIG P210 Target
              - Beretta 92X Performance
              - Dan Wesson DWX
              - Atlas/Staccato/Nighthawk 1911/2011's

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              • #8
                AC993
                Member
                • Aug 2020
                • 276

                Originally posted by SVT-40
                Look into any South American Mauser. Probably the pinnacle of Mauser production.

                I'll post a few pictures tomorrow.
                Please do I am curious to see. Ideally close up sections of the gun, showing off the quality of the build?

                Thank you!
                AC993

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                - Browning Hi-Power
                - SIG P210 Target
                - Beretta 92X Performance
                - Dan Wesson DWX
                - Atlas/Staccato/Nighthawk 1911/2011's

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                • #9
                  Rogerbutthead
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3796

                  Take your time.

                  Lots of sewer pipes from overseas have made their way to the US.

                  SVT-40 and others have cherry picked all the nice ones.

                  LOL

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                  • #10
                    AC993
                    Member
                    • Aug 2020
                    • 276

                    Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                    The 98K is not a WWI era firearm.

                    You should want the Gewehr 98 if you want it to be from the WWI era.


                    Also, don't forget the Mosin-Nagant.


                    OP, if you really want a well built C&R milsurp, I highly recommend an M1 Garand from the CMP. Not WWI era, but it is one of the greatest military rifles ever fielded.
                    I am going to look into an M1G, it has definitely been on my list of guns to own someday.

                    I was hoping for a really high quality bolt action rifle, but M1G might be the way to go.
                    AC993

                    Want To Buy List
                    - Browning Hi-Power
                    - SIG P210 Target
                    - Beretta 92X Performance
                    - Dan Wesson DWX
                    - Atlas/Staccato/Nighthawk 1911/2011's

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                    • #11
                      AC993
                      Member
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 276

                      Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                      Take your time.

                      Lots of sewer pipes from overseas have made their way to the US.

                      SVT-40 and others have cherry picked all the nice ones.

                      LOL
                      I'm looking at this one right now.

                      AC993

                      Want To Buy List
                      - Browning Hi-Power
                      - SIG P210 Target
                      - Beretta 92X Performance
                      - Dan Wesson DWX
                      - Atlas/Staccato/Nighthawk 1911/2011's

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                      • #12
                        highpower
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2012
                        • 5294

                        Originally posted by AC993
                        Why so confidently the M1903? Not challenging you, just curious to learn. Thanks!
                        I would vote for a nice '03 also. They have a long history here in the US and are readily available. Like all the rifles you mentioned, you absolutely must do your research before you buy.

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                        • #13
                          PogoJack
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2163

                          Originally posted by SVT-40
                          Look into any South American Mauser. Probably the pinnacle of Mauser production.

                          I'll post a few pictures tomorrow.

                          I have an action consisting of a FN Mauser Bolt and Receiver.

                          It is a Peruvian FN Modelo 1935 that some fudd in PA bubbaed up and at some point sporterized.



                          Right now it?s just a paperweight. I had thought about adding a barrel and new trigger and stock to it to resporterize it, but what?s the point in this age of $300 rifles that would be more accurate than a $2K job?

                          I heard that some Mauser parts are interchangeable so I could remilitarize it. It would probably cost more than what I could find an intact rifle for, however.

                          Any suggestions?
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                          • #14
                            SVT-40
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 12894

                            Since you liked the Swedish m/94, here are some pic's of a beautiful Swedish m/38 made by Husqvarna. It's the best looking m/38 that I have seen.












                            Last edited by SVT-40; 09-25-2023, 9:28 AM.
                            Poke'm with a stick!


                            Originally posted by fiddletown
                            What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                            • #15
                              SVT-40
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 12894

                              Peruvian 1909 rifle.










                              1895 Chilean Mauser.


                              Last edited by SVT-40; 09-25-2023, 9:36 AM.
                              Poke'm with a stick!


                              Originally posted by fiddletown
                              What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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