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  • gonzo
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 38

    Mosin Nagant M44 muzzle brake=bad mojo

    Hello,

    Yesterday I went out to a shooting range and shot my M44 with my newly attached muzzle brake. I removed the bayonet and installed the muzzle brake with two screws following directions, similar to this one http://www.gungarage.com/mosinnagant.htm

    I was using some suplus polish ammo and after the first shot the brake flew forward about 3ft I was like WTF was that then I inspected my rifle saw that the brake was no longer on the rifle. After getting the brake back I noticed one screw completely broke and the other was bended.

    On a happy note that polish ammo sure makes some nice fireballs

    Anyone have experience with brakes on the m44/m38's?
    Whats your opinions on why it flew of? I dont think I will ever put another brake on my Mosin again.
    Last edited by gonzo; 12-23-2006, 4:36 PM.
  • #2
    tteng
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1911

    The way muzzle brakes works is to re-direct some of the forward-escaping gas to up/down or left/right. Imagine someone hosing you w/ a single-stream water jet, your body will cause the water to break up but you'll feel the water pushing you. Either the screw is too weak to hold the brake, or is it possible the bullet is glancing off the part?

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    • #3
      pilotimb
      Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 321

      Don't trust the fit on those muzzle brakes, they don't line up straight. I had one on my M44 and it looked like it was fitted on correctly but my first shot glanced off the side of it.

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      • #4
        Noonanda
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3404

        those breaks are worthless as memos from DOJ. your story is only one of many who have put one on and had it launch off after the 1st or second round. Mosins dont need a muzzle break anyway, it would cut down on the huge fireball
        "You see in this world theres two kinds of people my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig... You Dig" Blondie from TGBU

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        • #5
          M. Sage
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jul 2006
          • 19759

          Why a muzzle brake? Is it going to make your follow-up shot faster?
          Originally posted by Deadbolt
          "We're here to take your land for your safety"

          "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
          sigpicNRA Member

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          • #6
            WokMaster1
            Part time Emperor
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2006
            • 5436

            It's from the gun garage. That should be your first clue.
            "Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)

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            • #7
              Stuka
              Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 133

              Originally posted by M. Sage
              Why a muzzle brake? Is it going to make your follow-up shot faster?
              To help knock down on some of the kick that the Mosins have.

              As I recall, there is two different muzzle brakes out there. And older style, and a newer improved one. Although I do not have experience with them as I have a 91/30.

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              • #8
                Fate
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 9545

                Those Mosin muzzle brakes SUCK. I've never seen a good one. Typically the same scenario plays itself out with the brake flying off and when retrieved, it shows evidence of being struck by the bullet.

                Personally, I move down the range when someone shows up with one. They are dangerous.
                Last edited by Fate; 07-13-2009, 5:03 PM. Reason: forgot the "the"!!
                sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                • #9
                  footdoc
                  Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 165

                  I have an old M44 muzzle brake that works fairly well at reducing felt recoil. It clamps around the front sight. I have fired a few hundred rounds through it without issue. It makes the M44 even louder, if you can imagine that.

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                  • #10
                    gonzo
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 38

                    Good to know these things are known to fly off, maybe someone should make a sticky for new owners to see.

                    Here is a pic of the busted brake, there appears to be some minor gracing in the inside of the the front shaft cant tell with my phone cam though cant say for sure it wasn't that way when I got it though.

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                    • #11
                      M. Sage
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 19759

                      Originally posted by Stuka
                      To help knock down on some of the kick that the Mosins have.
                      Bah, they don't kick THAT hard. Proper form, not gadgets and gizmos.
                      Originally posted by Deadbolt
                      "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                      "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
                      sigpicNRA Member

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                      • #12
                        Stuka
                        Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 133

                        No, they don't kick *that* hard, but after a day of firing one, you will generally end up a bit sore.

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                        • #13
                          Noonanda
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3404

                          Originally posted by Stuka
                          No, they don't kick *that* hard, but after a day of firing one, you will generally end up a bit sore.
                          thats what recoil shields are for. Work smarter not harder
                          "You see in this world theres two kinds of people my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig... You Dig" Blondie from TGBU

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                          • #14
                            grammaton76
                            Administrator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 9511

                            Originally posted by Stuka
                            No, they don't kick *that* hard, but after a day of firing one, you will generally end up a bit sore.
                            A Mosin has never left me sore, and Mosins are the only bolt-action rifles I shoot much.

                            Beowulf, on the other hand, you feel for a while. I like the fact I finally have a gun that CAN hurt, if fired enough.
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                            • #15
                              Stuka
                              Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 133

                              Originally posted by Noonanda
                              thats what recoil shields are for. Work smarter not harder
                              Rubber but pad does the trick, its a bit softer than the factory steel plate

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