"Cash and Carry" FTF/C&R Newbie...

[steelonthefly]

Hi Y'all,


Just want to be crystal clear before attempting my 1st California C&R purchase from another member of this forum.


To be clear, It will be a C&R LONG GUN. Face to face. Cash money.



So...


1)I give them, the Seller, a signed copy of my 03FFL AND COE for their records.

2)I get a copy of their, the seller's, current I.D. (CA DL) for my bound book entry. (*Probably snap a picture with my phone*)

3)Within 30 days, I enter my new rifle into CFARS.


4)Done. Clean and enjoy new to me rifle.



*Is there any way I can "protect the seller's identity" by omitting/blacking out any particular portion of the I.D.without falling short of my responsibilities, D.O.B. possibly?*


Is all of the above correct?

Did I miss anything?


At the end of the day, using my privileges, as opposed to DROS and an 01FFL will save a few dollars, but also "expose" information between myself and the seller, whom I have never actually met, and only have this forum and feedback ratings, and some PM's as a way to vet one another.

Does anyone here think, or have an experience that makes them believe, that it is worth the extra few dollars and "hassle of waiting in line" at a LGS to have them (the LGS) "protect one another's (Buyer/Seller) identities"?

Silly question here...Are there any laws against inspecting a long gun "out in public?" In other words, is it required to keep a firearm "out of the public eye," in public places? All of my other PPT inspections have always been done in the parking lots of the LGS's, in the trunk of the seller's car, and have been pistols. I am now wondering about the legality in meeting in a public space and potentially "brandishing," and even if it isn't against any law, I DO NOT want any concerned "Karen" to get their undies in a bunch and alert authorities, and waste everyone's time! SILLY, I know, but left wondering.

Any advice on making this experience as smooth and as trouble free as possible would be much appreciated.


Apologies in advance if I am repeating readily accessible information, I have bookmarked and poured over a TON of info here, and just want to be DOUBLY sure I get things right!


Thank you all in advance!!!


P.S. I will also be purchasing less than 500 Rounds of ammo, would any paperwork exchange be necessary for a FTF ammo purchase? (Technically? As I know where a LOT of us stand on this topic!!!)

[Spyder]

I'm not the most knowledgeable here so refer to others over me, but I don't think you need to give them a copy of anything. You'll have to record at least some of their info in your bound book, not just have a photograph of their ID.

Absolutely not it isn't worth going through a typical gun shop if you have the proper FFL/COE to be able to do it lawfully without them.

[enegue]

Pretty certain that you cannot legally inspect any firearm out in the open in public ever since open carry was banned in most parts of CA. It?s not even about brandishing, it?s about illegally carrying.

[SkyHawk]

The DOJ does not ask for info about the seller so there is no reason to block out anything in the photo you keep for your own records.

[Spyder]

Pretty certain that you cannot legally inspect any firearm out in the open in public ever since open carry was banned in most parts of CA. It?s not even about brandishing, it?s about illegally carrying.

California is a vast place. The huge majority of the state it would be perfectly acceptable and legal.

Be wise, and don't whip out a rifle in front of a school bus stop.

[enegue]

California is a vast place. The huge majority of the state it would be perfectly acceptable and legal.

Be wise, and don't whip out a rifle in front of a school bus stop.

Explain

[Quiet]

Pretty certain that you cannot legally inspect any firearm out in the open in public ever since open carry was banned in most parts of CA. It's not even about brandishing, it's about illegally carrying.

The CA ban on the unloaded open carry of firearms [PC 26350 and 26400] limits where a firearm can be displayed in public [PC 26361-23692 and 26405-26406].
^Examples of CA legal areas where it is legal to have an unloaded firearm in public... on the premise (includes parking lot) of a target range, on the premise of a gun store, and on the premise of a gun show.

Keep in mind these restrictions apply when the unloaded firearm is outside of a vehicle.

Therefore, it would be CA legal to inspect an unloaded long gun that is in the trunk or cargo/passenger space of a vehicle.

[enegue]

The CA ban on the unloaded open carry of firearms [PC 26350 and 26400] limits where a firearm can be displayed in public [PC 26361-23692 and 26405-26406].
^Examples of CA legal areas where it is legal to have an unloaded firearm in public... on the premise (includes parking lot) of a target range, on the premise of a gun store, and on the premise of a gun show.

Keep in mind these restrictions apply when the unloaded firearm is outside of a vehicle.

Therefore, it would be CA legal to inspect an unloaded long gun that is in the trunk or cargo/passenger space of a vehicle.

Thanks for the clarification!

[SVT-40]

You are not legally required to give the seller a copy of your FFL or COE.

You also don't have to get a copy of their state ID.

You just need to be sure you have the information for your Federally required bound book entry.

[Russian Bot]

Show them you FFL03 and COE, inspect it in the trunk or cargo area not easily visible to passers-by. Have them fill out their information in your bound book, hand them money and take your long gun.

[G-forceJunkie]

No body is taking a pic of my DL. Write down the info your require for you bound book.

[BrokerB]

Yes as above the last 2 posts

[SVT-40]

Show them you FFL03 and COE, inspect it in the trunk or cargo area not easily visible to passers-by. Have them fill out their information in your bound book, hand them money and take your long gun.

Nope on having the seller fill in the required information in the buyers bound book. That is 100% the responsibility of the licensee. The licensee is required to do that task and to be sure the information is accurate and has been verified by obtaining the information from the sellers state issued ID or drivers license.

[Spyder]

Explain

What is there to explain? California is a geographically vast place. The huge majority of the state it is perfectly legal to have a firearm out.

[bruce381]

SVT is 100% correct follow his advice