Winchester M1 Carbine T marked James River

[green grunt]

Hello All

just got back from the range with this , was my good friends that passed away a year ago , was kind of sad/happy at the same time...

shot very very well at 50yrds with only 2 feeding problems (10 rd mag?)

here is the kicker...it was a redo by James River , did not know till I cleaned it , stamped in the barrel channel "JAMES RIVER"

it is a T marked receiver, intertype made and built up by Winchester , I was told they bought the old parts from Inland (?)

why someone would redo a T marked winny I'll never know. But... there it is , I will not ever part with it , came with the repo case 2 10rd mags and a 1956 bayo from Italy

what ya all think of it ...I know...I'm keeping it anyway ...lol

[middleofnowhere]

That’s beautiful and a nice tribute to your friend to keep it.

[ARFrog]

Nice looking rifle to enjoy and remember your friend with.

Take it to the range and spread the 30 carbine love to a new generation.

I was surprised today that there was an IBM, an Inland and a Winchester all being shot at my local range. Not something you expect to see every day but fun - with one being a rearsenaled post-war rifle, one having a rail and red dot, and one with a rear rail and scope.

[beerman]

Nice carbine OP. Was it willed to you or sold by a family member? A keeper for sure. I’ll never part with my NPM.

[green grunt]

^ he told his sweet Wife if anything... you know... Chuck get 1st in line to buy it... kind of priceless to me... good friend and plinking buddy and I will remember him well...every time I use it..

He was an MP in the Army

range trips were fun...X-Army , X-Navy , X-Marine... boy did we kid each
other...

[sass2924]

Is it a re-weld? They do that with the M14 receivers. Take the back end of a demilled gun then weld their front end on.

[beerman]

Is it a re-weld? They do that with the M14 receivers. Take the back end of a demilled gun then weld their front end on.

I think they only cut up M2 carbines as they were select fire.. Winchester never made M2s.

[sass2924]

Link about guns being destroyed during the Clinton Administration, 45,000 M1 Carbines were report. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...810342/&page=1

Inland and Winchester both made the M2. Here's a link showing a Winchester at auction. https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...fa-machine-gun

[ir0nclash86]

Link about guns being destroyed during the Clinton Administration, 45,000 M1 Carbines were report. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...810342/&page=1

Inland and Winchester both made the M2. Here's a link showing a Winchester at auction. https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...fa-machine-gun

Omg I didn't know they destroyed all those C&R rifles. All that history gone.

[NorcalGSG]

Yeah, it's a repro accy not a repo, doubt he had a note on it go in default
I'm sure it was a rebuilt mixmaster by the time JRA redid it anyway, just part of its history. Glad you got it and thanks for sharing the story with us. Sorry for your lost friend.

[beerman]

Link about guns being destroyed during the Clinton Administration, 45,000 M1 Carbines were report. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...810342/&page=1

Inland and Winchester both made the M2. Here's a link showing a Winchester at auction. https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...fa-machine-gun

Thanks Sass, I didn?t know this.

[59caddy]

Your M1 Carbine receiver was originally 'manufactured' by Underwood, one of the 11 suppliers for the M1 Carbine in WW2. Underwood's contract ended before the end of WW2. They had manufactured some receivers that were not yet assembled into M1 carbines and their stock of these receivers was purchased by Winchester. The next steps by Winchester were somewhat varied and can be identified by the letter(s) stamped on the heel - The 'T' in your case.
Some of the receivers already had the Underwood name on the receiver and were assigned a certain run of serial numbers. Others had the name Underwood 'lined out', and had the Winchester name stamped below the line out. Others had the Underwood name removed and replaced with the Winchester name. A few others were received by Winchester with no manufacture name on the receiver, as they had not yet been hardened. Your receiver falls into the serial number range (5,759,1xx to 5,801,924) for these receivers and is marked with a 'T'.
The 'Intertype' subcontractor to Underwood also had their receivers marked with the same 'T', but that T only refers to Underwood marked receivers in the serial range of 2,352,521 to 2,400,080.
Somewhat confusing but there are a lot of Carbine collectors who thrive on all of these nuances.
It is amazing to think that so many different contractors from different backgrounds (automobiles, typewriters, juke box makers, business machines and so forth), could tool up so quickly and maintain such strict tolerances of millions of parts so that the parts could all be interchanged flawlessly!

[pitfighter]

Love it, and as has been said, a great tribute/memory to your friend.