Web Sling or 1907 for Garand?

[RNE228]

What's your preference for slings on a M1? Web vs 1907?

For Hasty and Loop?

Have used web sling on a 10/22 for Appleseed. But so far, have only shot Garand on bench. Trying to decide which sling to get for Garand to try some position shooting.

[-aK-]

Get the 1907 sling.

the GI cotton web sling works great, but the 1907 is much cooler. (Both are effective)

[bigbossman]

If you're going to shoot a lot of position (sitting, prone), then a 1907 style sling is the way to go. Especially if you're competing in Garand matches or Highpower

[NapalmCheese]

I went with a web sling because it seemed, initially, to be easier to effectively use for positional shooting. In the end it's not any easier, it's just different. You fiddle with the buckle or you fiddle with the frogs. That said, the web sling is lighter and easier to store.

That said, I'm going to buy a 1907, I'm just trying to decide if I want a Turner's or Ron Brown, and if Turner's if I want biothane or leather. I'm leaning leather Ron Brown at the moment.

[bigbossman]

I went with a web sling because it seemed, initially, to be easier to effectively use for positional shooting. In the end it's not any easier, it's just different. You fiddle with the buckle or you fiddle with the frogs. That said, the web sling is lighter and easier to store. Also - I don't store my slings, they stay on their respective rifles.

That said, I'm going to buy a 1907, I'm just trying to decide if I want a Turner's or Ron Brown, and if Turner's if I want biothane or leather. I'm leaning leather Ron Brown at the moment.

I've not had to fiddle with the frogs too much - if by "frogs" you mean the keepers? Basically, you just find the proper hook holes for your position once, and then it is always the same. Loop, turn the sling, slip your arm through, and cinch it down. I've never used a web sling in competition, so can't comment on them. Also - I don't store my slings, they stay on their respective rifles.

Both the Ron Brown and the Turner's are nice slings. My slings happen to be custom ones that a fellow competitor used to make, but essentially the same. I had him make mine a bit longer because I have longer arms than normal .

A did acquire a new, black Turner's sling a while ago when I glomed onto a match-prepped AR. It was the thickest damn leather sling I've ever encountered, and is really, really hard to adjust. I suppose some leather conditioner would help, but I've already got two slings in rotations so it sits on a rifle awaiting future use.

Not sure what Biothane was, had to Google it. Yuk. I'll take real leather, thank-you-very-much!! Seriously though - leather will stretch some over time, and does need to cared for to prevent cracking over the long run - so maybe a synthetic AWS is the way to go? I can comment that my leather slings has stretched some over the years but have never cracked or worn out, over literally decades of competition.

[NapalmCheese]

I've not had to fiddle with the frogs too much - if by "frogs" you mean the keepers? Basically, you just find the proper hook holes for your position once, and then it is always the same. Loop, turn the sling, slip your arm through, and cinch it down. I've never used a web sling in competition, so can't comment on them. Also - I don't store my slings, they stay on their respective rifles.

Not sure what Biothane was, had to Google it. Yuk. I'll take real leather, thank-you-very-much!! Seriously though - leather will stretch some over time, and does need to cared for to prevent cracking over the long run - so maybe a synthetic AWS is the way to go? I can comment that my leather slings has stretched some over the years but have never cracked or worn out, over literally decades of competition.

Keepers probably, whatever, the little hook deals. Do you use the same sling setting from sitting and prone? My understanding is that it's pretty common to have different settings for sitting and prone. I dunno, I'm using a web sling and just unhinge the buckle, snug up, and snap the buckle back down.

Turner's Saddlery seems pretty proud of their biothane. I wasn't all that interested, and I don't shoot snapped in enough to care about it stretching too much, but they seem to think it's a winning alternative. That said, leather is comfortable.

With the web slings, if you pull the loop out of the back end of the sling it makes a slip cuff which makes it dead simple to tighten on your bicep, too tight even to the point of having pulse issues. IIRC you tighten the leather sling down by pushing the (what I thought was the) keeper (the leather collar) down to your bicep, which doesn't seem as tight when I've tried it with other (not thick) leather 1907 style slings. The web sling does a good job of not sliding down my arm, it's pretty grippy.

I don't think you can lose either way. I've heard people say the web slings are nice in weather just because they don't stretch during the course of fire as they get soaked. Not really an issue for me. I imagine the web sling I'm using will wear out faster than about any quality leather 1907 sling I might get.

[smoothy8500]

I'm just trying to decide if I want a Turner's or Ron Brown, and if Turner's if I want biothane or leather. I'm leaning leather Ron Brown at the moment.

Ron Brown slings are much better quality than the current Turner slings. The Ron Brown leather is better, slightly thicker and lasts longer. Those loops are Keepers, they help hold the sling tight on your arm. Frogs are the hooks. Pushing the keepers doesn't tighten the sling, you need to pull the sling tight, the keepers stay next to the hooks (frog).

Generally, sitting needs one hook hole tighter than prone. Not really an issue to adjust when you become familiar with use.

[bigbossman]

I've done pretty well using the same hook/frog position for both sitting and prone.

[NapalmCheese]

I've had a tab open to Creedmoor sports on the Ron Brown page for a while now, I finally just bought and some more clips. Now I have BOTH types of sling!

[bigbossman]

I've had a tab open to Creedmoor sports on the Ron Brown page for a while now, I finally just bought and some more clips. Now I have BOTH types of sling!

Obviously you need another Garand for your extra sling.

[NapalmCheese]

Obviously you need another Garand for your extra sling.

Yeah... It looks like expert grades are going for a grand and coming with new barrels; it's very tempting.

[socal m1 shooter]

Obviously you need another Garand for your extra sling.

Wise advice. Buying Garands is like eating potato chips, hard to stop with one.

Yeah... It looks like expert grades are going for a grand and coming with new barrels; it's very tempting.

I'll echo the upthread responders. I only have Turner M1907 slings, no Ron Brown. I bought all of them at the Armory of Orange back in the day, and some have very thick leather, some a little thinner. Never had a problem with any of them but I only attend matches infrequently. Maybe an urban myth but I do not put them in the safe with the Goldenrod (dehumidifier).

This video below was very helpful to me, but I have seen various ways to deploy an M1907 sling. Personally, I found it took me a few matches to get my sling dialed in. I rig mine like the video shows (the guy in the video is Greg Ficklin) but you can find other videos on YT that show at least one different way. Pics below the video show another method I saw at a match I attended.

Greg Ficklin, Distinguished Rifleman on M1907 Sling Deployment

[bigbossman]

This video below was very helpful to me, but I have seen various ways to deploy an M1907 sling. Personally, I found it took me a few matches to get my sling dialed in. I rig mine like the video shows (the guy in the video is Greg Ficklin)

Thanks for posting the video. I've been shooting Highpower for a long while, and hold a Master card. While I pretty much rig my sling like his video showed, there was something I learned by watching it. So, one never knows.....

Also - I found his observation on sling length for sitting and prone to be the same as mine - I use the same sling length for both positions. Seems to work well for me.

[socal m1 shooter]

[...]Also - I found his observation on sling length for sitting and prone to be the same as mine - I use the same sling length for both positions. Seems to work well for me.

I do as well, possibly because I do sitting with my legs crossed in so-called "indian style" with my feet pulled in, under the knees. For whatever reason the geometry of that position and of my body allows me to use the same sling holes/sling length.

[bigbossman]

I do as well, possibly because I do sitting with my legs crossed in so-called "indian style" with my feet pulled in, under the knees. For whatever reason the geometry of that position and of my body allows me to use the same sling holes/sling length.

Me, as well.