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  • canman
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 1572

    Question on G98 converted to K98

    thx
    Last edited by canman; 05-28-2023, 9:07 PM. Reason: Thread clean up
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  • #2
    highpower
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2012
    • 5294

    The "1920" on the receiver denotes that it was German government property after WWI. I see a "S/42" on the barrel which is a Mauser Factory code from the late 1930's. However, the front band is a late war stamped unit that would have been made after Mauser had switched to the "byf" manufacture's code. I believe that your rifle is a late war, or possibly a post war rebuild.

    Interesting fact; during the Nazi era in Germany, the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht didn't particularly like to give up newly manufactured rifles to the Waffen SS and the Luftwaffe. Instead of giving them new rifles, they would tend to assign them reworked Gew98's. Whether this is one of those rifles is anybody's guess, but I just thought I would throw that out there.

    It's been refinished.
    Last edited by highpower; 02-04-2023, 2:19 AM.
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    • #3
      Rogerbutthead
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3794

      Do you think this is a Vopo K98 - Czech winter trigger guard, semi Kriegsmodell stock, blued buttplate, "X" on the barrel - ?



      I am no 98K expert, I just own some 98K's and one 98.

      I'd post on the "k98kforum.com" under "Mauser Rifles 1945 to Present Day - Postwar Use" - since I've read that the Czech Winter trigger guard is a give away that it is a post war effort - for at least that part. Germans in WWII did not blue the buttplate of their 98Ks. The USSR and EGermany did.

      *That may not be a Czech Winter Trigger guard. It may be normal, my eyesight isn't great. Maybe the angle of the photograph makes it look longer than a normal one.

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      Last edited by Rogerbutthead; 02-04-2023, 3:08 AM.

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      • #4
        Rogerbutthead
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 3794

        This is a trigger guard of a WWI Mauser 98. It has that hole in front of the guard.



        Does yours look like that? I can't tell from your picture.

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        • #5
          Rogerbutthead
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 3794

          Ian talks about the modified stock at around the 13 minute mark.



          The Germans had the RG34 cleaning kit being issued starting in 1934 and they did not include the hole for a cleaning rod in the late war stock you have.

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          • #6
            Rogerbutthead
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3794

            Can you post a picture of the front sight of the rifle?

            Also, someone drilled a hole in the stock for the cleaning rod?

            I thought they didn't come with a hole there?

            Can you show a more detailed pic of what appears to be a crack in the front of the stock - seems aligned with the cleaning rod - ?

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            • #7
              Rogerbutthead
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 3794

              So that rifle started life in 1916 at MAUSER A.G. OBERNDORF as a 98. The 1920 mark as noted by Highpower means it was among the weapons the Germans declared under the Treaty of Versailles - https://www.forgottenweapons.com/wha...le-date-stamp/

              I do hope you post at the K98K forum so their experts can chime in on the interesting history of your example.

              Too bad weapons can't talk.

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              • #8
                MasterChief
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 564

                Winter TG


                Czech style winter trigger guard.

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                • #9
                  Rogerbutthead
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3794

                  Never seen that variation of the VZ24 front sight hood before - but I now see they are for sale if you look for them.



                  Only seen this other variation before.



                  I know an "X" on the receiver of a G43 usually means it is a VoPo, but am wondering if an "X" on the barrel of a 98K means something to the experts.

                  I await with interest for what the K98K forum experts say about your interesting piece.

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                  • #10
                    Rogerbutthead
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3794

                    Things I learned:

                    A DDR/EGerman gun doesn't have to be a VoPo - only a VoPo if it has the sunburst VoPo marking

                    I can't remember the difference between a Kreigsmodell stock and a semi-Kreigsmodell stock - even though I have the Kreigsmodell book.

                    I already knew my eyesight sucks.

                    Didn't see anything new in that second post on the K98K forum and I kinda doubt they will be that interested in the parts used by the DDR to rebuild that upgraded Mauser 98.

                    Oh, German K98K cleaning rods are short because they were meant to be joined with other cleaning rods when the men would clean their rifles together. (They can be screwed together)

                    So how does it shoot?

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                    • #11
                      SVT-40
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                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12894

                      Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                      Things I learned:

                      A DDR/EGerman gun doesn't have to be a VoPo - only a VoPo if it has the sunburst VoPo marking

                      I can't remember the difference between a Kreigsmodell stock and a semi-Kreigsmodell stock - even though I have the Kreigsmodell book.

                      I already knew my eyesight sucks.

                      Didn't see anything new in that second post on the K98K forum and I kinda doubt they will be that interested in the parts used by the DDR to rebuild that upgraded Mauser 98.

                      Oh, German K98K cleaning rods are short because they were meant to be joined with other cleaning rods when the men would clean their rifles together. (They can be screwed together)

                      So how does it shoot?
                      Quite true. The East Germans also used other marks to proof their firearms. In the case of my rifle below it's the Eagle over Crown "U" on the metal, and the boxed K13 and K10 on the stock.










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