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  • Thecarpenter94
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2022
    • 11

    M1 garand bayo

  • #2
    highpower
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2012
    • 5314

    Any GI issue M1905, M1905 modified, M1 and M5A1 bayonet will fit on any M1 Garand.
    Last edited by highpower; 12-08-2022, 6:25 PM.
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    • #3
      Thecarpenter94
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2022
      • 11

      Just found a bayo in its original packaging cakes in cosmoline at a local antique store. All sales are final and I just wanted to make sure it would work Before I pulled the trigger on it, thanks!


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      • #4
        sbo80
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 2265

        generally speaking, as bayonet collecting goes, an original packaged WW2 bayonet should probably stay that way. There's thousands of open and used bayonets out there for you to mount on a rifle. You wouldn't buy an unfired/unissued Garand and take it to the range, no matter what good deal you got buying it...
        Though thinking about it, I doubt what you found is "original packaging". That would be extremely rare, for one. Original packaged would be a green oily/greased paper, and someone would have to rip open the paper to see that it was AFH. I've never seen an M1 in an original box so I don't know if they came that way or not. M5s and later did. If it's just in a plastic bag with cosmo, that would be something that was done post-war to put it back into storage. Not sure if gov't did that or someone after it was surplused out.
        Last edited by sbo80; 12-08-2022, 3:46 PM. Reason: .

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        • #5
          sbo80
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 2265

          ^also, although all the series of M1905, M1, and M5 bayonets are compatible will all Garands, technically the M5 bayonets would be more "time-period" accurate for a Korean War H&R. All the bayonets of course were still used/issued throughout (though I doubt any or many M1905 16" bayonets went to Korea). AFH made both the long M1905 bayonets in 42/43, and the short M1 bayonets after that until 45. If the one you are looking at is really "unissued" it would be an M1 from WW2, so wrong war. AFH didn't make any of the M5 series. If you look to buy a bayonet, generally the M5s are going to be cheaper than M1s as well.
          Last edited by sbo80; 12-08-2022, 3:38 PM. Reason: .

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          • #6
            highpower
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2012
            • 5314

            Funny story: A M5A1 bayonet was the very first military surplus item that I ever bought. That was back around 1963/64 and somehow, out of all the things that have come and gone in my life since then, I still have it.
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            • #7
              Thecarpenter94
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2022
              • 11

              Originally posted by highpower
              Funny story: A M5A1 bayonet was the very first military surplus item that I ever bought. That was back around 1963/64 and somehow, out of all the things that have come and gone in my life since then, I still have it.

              High power man that hit deep! Thanks for sharing that!


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              • #8
                63 tango
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1016

                Originally posted by highpower
                Funny story: A M5A1 bayonet was the very first military surplus item that I ever bought. That was back around 1963/64 and somehow, out of all the things that have come and gone in my life since then, I still have it.
                Same here, I got mine in 84 or 85 and I still have it

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                • #9
                  musketjon
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1746

                  It will fit a Harrington & Richardson. Not sure about the Herrington & Richardson.

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                  • #10
                    19K
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 3621

                    Originally posted by sbo80
                    generally speaking, as bayonet collecting goes, an original packaged WW2 bayonet should probably stay that way. There's thousands of open and used bayonets out there for you to mount on a rifle. You wouldn't buy an unfired/unissued Garand and take it to the range, no matter what good deal you got buying it...
                    Though thinking about it, I doubt what you found is "original packaging". That would be extremely rare, for one. Original packaged would be a green oily/greased paper, and someone would have to rip open the paper to see that it was AFH. I've never seen an M1 in an original box so I don't know if they came that way or not. M5s and later did. If it's just in a plastic bag with cosmo, that would be something that was done post-war to put it back into storage. Not sure if gov't did that or someone after it was surplused out.

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                    • #11
                      clb
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 349

                      Originally posted by sbo80
                      generally speaking, as bayonet collecting goes, an original packaged WW2 bayonet should probably stay that way. There's thousands of open and used bayonets out there for you to mount on a rifle. You wouldn't buy an unfired/unissued Garand and take it to the range, no matter what good deal you got buying it...
                      Though thinking about it, I doubt what you found is "original packaging". That would be extremely rare, for one. Original packaged would be a green oily/greased paper, and someone would have to rip open the paper to see that it was AFH. I've never seen an M1 in an original box so I don't know if they came that way or not. M5s and later did. If it's just in a plastic bag with cosmo, that would be something that was done post-war to put it back into storage. Not sure if gov't did that or someone after it was surplused out.
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                      • #12
                        SVT-40
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 12907

                        The Koreans modified US made Garand bayonets by shortening and narrowing them so they would fit into US made M7 scabbard. These bayonets came on to the US surplus market back in the late 80's. They were packaged two bayonets per pack. The Koreans used "M5" as their designation for these modified Garand bayonets.

                        They can still occasionally be found in their original Korean packaging. A few "AFH" marked were in the 30 or so that I took out of their packaging.


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                        • #13
                          sbo80
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 2265

                          ^That would be neat, I've never seen a Korean cut-down one still marked. The one I have, and few others I've seen, had all markings completely ground off before being re-parkerized. (I suppose I only assume mine is a Korean cut-down, since there's no markings at all, but I don't know of any others that did this).
                          Maybe a little typo there though, the 10" scabbard for the 10" M1 bayonet is the "M7". Korea shortened them to fit the M8A1 scabbard, which is standard for the US M4, M5, M6 and M7 bayonets, and which they would have had lots of post-Korean war. And not to confuse anyone too much, the M7 scabbard is really a shortened M3 scabbard. Not be confused with the M3 knife and its M6 scabbard (which had a short life and eventually the M3 knife was issued in the M8 scabbard, which had the belt hanger later modified and named M8A1). Whew.

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                          • #14
                            SVT-40
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 12907

                            Originally posted by sbo80
                            ^That would be neat, I've never seen a Korean cut-down one still marked. The one I have, and few others I've seen, had all markings completely ground off before being re-parkerized. (I suppose I only assume mine is a Korean cut-down, since there's no markings at all, but I don't know of any others that did this).
                            Maybe a little typo there though, the 10" scabbard for the 10" M1 bayonet is the "M7". Korea shortened them to fit the M8A1 scabbard, which is standard for the US M4, M5, M6 and M7 bayonets, and which they would have had lots of post-Korean war. And not to confuse anyone too much, the M7 scabbard is really a shortened M3 scabbard. Not be confused with the M3 knife and its M6 scabbard (which had a short life and eventually the M3 knife was issued in the M8 scabbard, which had the belt hanger later modified and named M8A1). Whew.

                            Yup, You were correct. The Korean Bayonet scabbards are marked M8A1.

                            I also found I still have 7 of the Korean (2) packs of the M5 bayonets... As well as 4 loose Korean M5 pig stickers...




                            I guess I'm a rich man.... Found this on Ebay.. $4,900.00 for a two pack of Korean M5 bayonets... LOL

                            Last edited by SVT-40; 12-21-2022, 2:47 PM.
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                            Originally posted by fiddletown
                            What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                            • #15
                              sbo80
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 2265

                              Originally posted by SVT-40
                              I also found I still have 7 of the Korean (2) packs of the M5 bayonets... As well as 4 loose Korean M5 pig stickers...

                              I guess I'm a rich man.... Found this on Ebay.. $4,900.00 for a two pack of Korean M5 bayonets... LOL
                              You should open them up. Maybe polish or chrome them. That would be cool.
                              There's a ton of stuff constantly on the auction sites at bizarre high prices though, which of course don't sell and relist constantly. I don't know what people think. You probably could get some decent cash for those from the right collector, but I don't know about 5 g's.

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