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  • dfletcher
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2006
    • 14787

    Star Modelo Super

    A few months back I bought a 1947 made Star Model B in 9mm Luger and by accident bought magazines for the later made Model Super in 9mm Largo. Slight difference in the floorplate. Instead of returning the mags am tomorrow picking a 1957 made Super in Largo cartridge.

    Largo ammo isn't terribly hard to find, and I reload, but I'd like to have the option of cheap shooting and ease of finding reloading components.

    The Largo is a 9x23 case. Shooting Winchester 9x23 is a definite no as is 38 Super. 9mm Luger operates about 20% greater pressure than the Largo.

    Any ideas on what to do for casual plinking and for reloading? No 380 ACP barrels out there, the Luger is a definite no with a stronger recoil spring? Will 38 ACP work, whether factory or the cases for reloading?
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    highpower
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2012
    • 5294

    I think your best bet is to reload for 9 Largo. I have been a fan of Star pistols ever since I picked up a Super A a few years ago for $150 ( I have always been unable to pass up a deal). I also got one of the Star BM pistols that came in a few years ago and have shot it extensively.

    1951 vintage Super A.

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    • #3
      dfletcher
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2006
      • 14787

      ^
      Did a little research since last night - that may be the way to go. Grafs has plenty of brass and it's about $22.00 per hundred. Dies should be easy to find.

      Evidently a few years back someone in US was making barrels in 9mm Luger for a switchout with the Largo. Doesn't seem like such a good move.
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      • #4
        Dan_Eastvale
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2013
        • 10070

        Like the Stars
        I carry this 81 BM
        No billboard import markings and never issued to their police because of no police insignias or no “crop circle” ground out police insignias
        Case hardened hammer like my Smiths.
        Super reliable with Federal 124 grain Punch

        Super thin and perfect for my small hands

        Love these old school steel guns
        Last edited by Dan_Eastvale; 04-13-2023, 9:23 PM.

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        • #5
          pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10276

          Originally posted by dfletcher
          ^
          Did a little research since last night - that may be the way to go. Grafs has plenty of brass and it's about $22.00 per hundred. Dies should be easy to find.

          Evidently a few years back someone in US was making barrels in 9mm Luger for a switchout with the Largo. Doesn't seem like such a good move.
          bolded ... 9mm largo can be loaded using 9mm para dies. Comparing case dim. Only diff is the 4mm of length.

          Which since the largo is the longer. Only requires the die adjustment to properly seat bullet and taper crimp.

          As to barrel swap. Why not? Star made many models of the same exact pistols in both chamberings. So they without a doubt knew the 9 para was GTG.
          Last edited by pacrat; 06-25-2022, 10:23 PM.

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          • #6
            dfletcher
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2006
            • 14787

            Originally posted by pacrat
            bolded ... 9mm largo can be loaded using 9mm para dies. Comparing case dim. Only diff is the 4mm of length.

            Which since the largo is the longer. Only requires the die adjustment to properly seat bullet and taper crimp.

            As to barrel swap. Why not? Star made many models of the same exact pistols in both chamberings. So they without a doubt knew the 9 para was GTG.
            I ordered what Grafs calls "9x23" dies and lists 9mm Largo specifically. Hornady titanium types for $44.00. I have a bunch of 9mm Luger dies and can use them for seating different bullet types I guess. Brass was $19.00 per hundred. Not bad.

            So far as using a 9mm Luger barrel, you're probably right but I want to check more before jumping.

            A shot of the Model B with "LPN" stamp -


            And the Modelo Super just picked up today -
            Last edited by dfletcher; 07-28-2022, 11:14 PM.
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            • #7
              pacrat
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2014
              • 10276

              Those are both very nice. I have a "Super B" in 9 para. That I got from J&G Sales back in the original SSE days. IIRC the price was $189+ shipping. Then tacked on $70 for DROS and SSE service from OC Firearms. OTD was right at $300.

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