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  • NorCalRefuge
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 685

    How do I know who the CLEO is?

    Filling out my Form 7... How do I know who the correct CLEO is to send a copy to?

    I have an Elk Grove address (and Elk Grove has a PD), but Sacramento PD seems to respond to things in my neighborhood. CCW process goes through the county Sheriff. All 3 have a Chief of their own...

    Do I just pick one of the three?
    Last edited by NorCalRefuge; 02-08-2022, 8:19 PM.
  • #2
    Spaffo
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 1292

    Whoever handles calls in your neighborhood is your PD/SO.

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    • #3
      NorCalRefuge
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 685

      Originally posted by Spaffo
      Whoever handles calls in your neighborhood is your PD/SO.
      And how do you know that for certain, without calling 911? Sometimes one office will provide assistance to others, etc...

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      • #4
        prob
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1354

        I think it would be your Elk Grove PD.

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44646

          Originally posted by prob
          I think it would be your Elk Grove PD.
          I agree.

          It's not that critical - that's a 'courtesy notification', the CLEO cannot do anything about the application.
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          • #6
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            Every law enforcement agency in CA has clearly delineated areas aka “reporting districts” within which they are responsible for law enforcement. The LEO’s working in any of these areas will also know exactly where those districts begin and end. This is very important because regardless of who shows up to a call, there is a single agency that is ultimately responsible for handling it.

            It is common to see Sheriffs, CHP, and City PD’s show up to a call, especially something big. Sometimes in unincorporated areas, the Sheriff handles crime calls and the CHP handles traffic. In incorporated cities, their units usually handle both. But in any case, there will only be one Department that has overall responsibility of a given area, and that is who your FFL forms should go to.

            Don’t be surprised if you are asked to explain what it is and what they are supposed to do with it when you drop it off. If you mail it in, don’t be surprised if you get a phone call asking those same questions. I have encountered both, but everything was cordial and professional, as it should be.

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            • #7
              Bobby Ricigliano
              Mit Gott und Mauser
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 17439

              Originally posted by Librarian
              I agree.

              It's not that critical - that's a 'courtesy notification', the CLEO cannot do anything about the application.

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              • #8
                NorCalRefuge
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 685

                Forgive my ignorance, are these reporting districts posted someplace, or do I need to call each department?

                Would there be an issue if I just used the Sheriff instead of the local PD?

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                • #9
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12894

                  Which city do you live in? What is your zip code? That will tell you what city is responsible for primary police response.

                  Do you pay a water bill to the same city as your zip code?

                  Seriously this isn't that hard.
                  Poke'm with a stick!


                  Originally posted by fiddletown
                  What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                  • #10
                    NorCalRefuge
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 685

                    Originally posted by SVT-40
                    Which city do you live in? What is your zip code? That will tell you what city is responsible for primary police response.

                    Do you pay a water bill to the same city as your zip code?

                    Seriously this isn't that hard.

                    Well perhaps I'm making it more complicated than it needs to be, but no, my utility companies are based in Sacramento, my zip is Elk Grove, Elk Grove has it's own police department, yet I regularly see Sacramento PD come through here, along with Elk Grove's Fire Department.

                    To make it even more complicated, one of my utilities lists my city as Sacramento, but the rest say Elk Grove. USPS says Elk Grove too...

                    I think I live exactly on the border between the two...

                    If the purpose of notifying local CLEO is to ensure you're not violating any local laws and have no criminal records, then does it actually matter which of these departments I mail the copy to? With all the uncertainty, Sheriff's office strikes me as the logical choice... But you all seem to be implying that would be a mistake?

                    If it was clear cut, I wouldn't be asking...and the ATF form leaves a lot of ambiguity with what is exactly the right choice anyway. It says "The Chief of Police, Sheriff, or equivalent... of your locality...". Well, which one? Any of the above?
                    Last edited by NorCalRefuge; 02-08-2022, 9:03 PM.

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                    • #11
                      SVT-40
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12894

                      You could always call the non emergency line for Elk Grove and ask them if they are responsible calls at your specific address. That would solve the issue once and for all.
                      Poke'm with a stick!


                      Originally posted by fiddletown
                      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                      • #12
                        sacrvrrat
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 425

                        Just look up the city limits. If you live within either Elk Grove or Sacramento then send to that PD. If not send to Sac County Sheriff.


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                        • #13
                          NorCalRefuge
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2018
                          • 685

                          Thanks everyone - ended up putting down the EGPD Chief. Hoping everything is fine... I like my ATF forms to be trouble free

                          Expecting a call from the PD though, asking what to do with this form? lol

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                          • #14
                            Devilock04
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 2452

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                            • #15
                              Bobby Ricigliano
                              Mit Gott und Mauser
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 17439

                              Originally posted by NorCalRefuge
                              Forgive my ignorance, are these reporting districts posted someplace, or do I need to call each department?

                              Would there be an issue if I just used the Sheriff instead of the local PD?

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