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  • lazystar
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 121

    looking for a good muzzleloader Appraiser in The Bay Area

    Hi everyone,

    I just acquired 3 stunning Hawken rifles at an estate sale.
    I'll be keeping one and selling the others and am looking for an appraiser that is familiar with custom made Hawkens from the 1970s.

    These guns are GORGEOUS!

    Any info will be greatly appreciated .

    thanks

    Jon
    Last edited by lazystar; 10-01-2022, 1:47 PM.
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    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    Pics? Info on them.

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    • #3
      lazystar
      Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 121

      I'll get some info uploaded later today.

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      • #4
        kendog4570
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2008
        • 5180

        Is either marked Navy Arms?

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        • #5
          lazystar
          Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 121

          1. .50 Cal , heavy barrel , highly figured Maple, appears unfired, silver front sight, barrel and all metal browned , pinned , fixed patent breech, 32" barrel , 47" overall , L.O.P. 14", poured Pewter nose cap, no markings. Looks like a kit from The Hawken Shop , Sharon , GRRW , or another
          2. .54 Cal , W.M. large barrel w/ fixed patent breech , highly figured Maple stock , Silver inlaid Buffalo on stock , 32" barrel , overall length 49" , L.O.P. 14"
          W. Morgan XVII percussion lock , L Nelson '71 engraved on outside of lock,
          poured pewter nosecap , appears unfired. Looks like it may have been built by one of the above mentioned companies.

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          • #6
            lazystar
            Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 121

            Definitely not Navy Arms . I doubt these were production guns. My guess is Either kit built or custom built.
            I only posted 2 pics because I'm keeping the 3rd.

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            • #7
              recpark99
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2012
              • 957

              You might try Krauswerk Collectibles in San Mateo. I haven't been in there since before COVID, but he has mostly C&R stuff. Wouldn't hurt to give him a call. Good luck

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              • #8
                lazystar
                Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 121

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                • #9
                  recpark99
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 957

                  If I get a chance around lunchtime, I'll try to swing by and see if they're still open.

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                  • #10
                    lazystar
                    Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 121

                    Thank you!

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                    • #11
                      recpark99
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 957

                      I didn't get a chance to swing by there yesterday, but his website is up to date. Says he's open 12-5 Tues to Sat.

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                      • #12
                        THBailey
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 737

                        Go check these folks out:

                        Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French & Indian War, Civil War reenactors.


                        If you are a rookie thinking of getting into front stuffers this place can put you miles ahead of the curve. The classified section might also be your best bet to optimize your return on investment.
                        THBailey


                        As Will Rogers once said:
                        "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects."

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                        • #13
                          RudyN
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2288

                          The muzzleloading forum is great. I belong to it and there are some very knowledgeable people there. Also some nice vendors that help separate you from your money. [emoji41][emoji1360]


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                          Rudy N
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                          • #14
                            M76
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 5953

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                            Originally posted by dunndeal
                            Stop digging.
                            Originally posted by BrassCase
                            I only buy fireworks from Three Finger Willie over at One Eyed Jack's Fireworks.
                            iTrader

                            https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1884858

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                            • #15
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Hawken prices can run $200 up beyond $1,000. Take them apart and take good quality photos of every mark to nail down who made it. You'll probably find more collective knowledge on the Muzzleloading forum than one local appraiser.
                              I was fortunate to buy a LH flintlock built by a well known maker and they sorted it all out for me. Turns out my little investigation turned it into a gun that was worth at least 3 times what I paid for it.
                              I had a Hawken but sold it before I discovered the link between them and my wife's ancestors the Chouteau family that founded St. Louis in the 1700s. They bought and sold many Hawkins (from the St Louis factory) at their trading posts spread throughout the fur trapping areas. I have been on the hunt for an original at a price that isn't stupid and have pretty much resigned myself to a replica. https://civilwartalk.com/threads/haw...actory.101463/
                              Last edited by M1NM; 01-15-2022, 2:38 PM.

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