Type 99 Arisaka Trainer? Help.

[Shiloh]

Good morning all. I recently acquired this Type 99 Arisaka and was advised it was a pre-last ditch rifle. I was also advised it has an oversized receiver that looked like it was cast and was best not to shoot it. After doing some research I can't seem to find much information about this piece. The best I can find is that it may be a training rifle. The receiver has no markings on it except for a serial number. The barrel only has a serial number as well.

I was wondering if any of you all might be able to give some input or point me in the right direction to do a little more in depth research compared to the redundat plain information which can easily be googled. I have included some pics to get a better idea of what it may be.

I appreciate and thank you for all the help in advance.

[highpower]

I'm no expert on Japanese last ditch and training rifles, but if you go to the "Firearms of the Rising Sun" forum on Gunboards, you should be able to get answers to your questions.

[-hanko]

Send a PM to Dennis Kroh here. He owns Empire Arms and has forgotten more C&R info than most folks know.

hth

[Rogerbutthead]

Interesting Arisaka.

Guess the usual suspects are North China/Korean post war rifle or trainer rifle.

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/strange-arisaka-t-99.343459/page-2

https://www.shootersforum.com/threads/arisaka-type-style-38-on-mon-on-receiver-not-a-ground-off.79486/

Is it a one-piece buttsstock? Not the normal two piece buttstock?

Nothing written on the stock? Trainer rifles usually had a lot of markings on the stock.

*I requested help in the ID from the GB Firearms of the Rising Sun forum.

[Arisuka]

I collect Japanese arms. I'm 99% sure that it's a Naval Special Type 99. The receiver is cast iron and the barrel extends inside the receiver so that the bolt locks into the forged barrel not unlike an AR15.

If you ever did want to sell it, I'd be interested in it. I "need" one of those for my collection.

[Rogerbutthead]

Never even heard of the Naval Special Type 99.

https://carbinesforcollectors.com/arisakatype99page.html

"The Japanese Navy manufactured a version of the Type 99 with a cast iron receiver. This was the Naval Special Type 99 Rifle. A 26 9/16” barreled rifle & 21 5/8” carbine were produced. Although crude, the first rifles had upper hand guards & receiver markings. The late war ones had no receiver markings other than a S/N & an inspection mark. Apparently none of the guns were blued. They were all painted, mostly black but some may have red painted parts mixed in.

Not only the receiver but all the bands, trigger guard & magazine floor plate were cast iron. The chamber of the barrel was enlarged & the locking recess for the bolt was machined into the barrel. This kept the receiver from carrying any of the stresses of firing. Even though this is sound in theory & is used on some modern rifles, these cast iron receiver rifles & carbines should not be fired!"

Kinda shocked at what they sell at - https://pre98.com/shop/scarce-japane...n-rarely-seen/

[nambu1810]

Could use better pictures, but appears to be q Type 99 Navy Special. The cast reciever is only a bolt guide; the bolt locks into the barrel.

[Hardwarejunkie]

What an interesting firearm, nice score OP!

[SVT-40]

Another vote for being a Naval special!

I lucked into one years ago for free, and sold it for a good amount of cash.