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  • crotter
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 346

    M44 Mosin Nagant 1943 Test example...

    I have one soviet rifle in my collection... an M44 Mosin Nagant.

    I acquired this rifle back in 2007 after graduating college early in my collecting days. I had received $100 as a graduation gift from a family friend, and within a week had received the Big 5 Sporting goods mailer advertising these M44's on sale for $89.99- So I made the command decision to add a piece to the collection!

    I went to my local big 5 and was allowed to "cherry pick" from the 4 they had in stock. I just on a whim chose my rifle not knowing much about them at the time. Wasn't until recently that I noticed the 1943 date stamp and did some reading that this was the "experimental test batch" of approximately 50,000 rifles.

    How rare is this exactly? Any one else have one? Of course it is a Century Arms import marked example but it did come with the ammo pouch, sling, and cleaning kit. I even still have the original CAI cardboard shipping box. Rifle is in excellent shape overall, though it has been counterbored.

    I miss the days of those Big 5 C&R specials...



    "I don't own them. I'm just their caretaker for a little while until they go on to the next caretaker. They aren't TOOLS.....they WERE tools but are now artifacts, implements of an earlier age that PRODUCED history and brought mankind's timeline to where it is at this moment. And as such, it is my responsibility to preserve them."
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    Springfield45
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2426

    There should also be a year mark on the bottom of the receiver tang for when the receiver was made when you take it apart. But I think that they made some M44's using new and existing older parts. So you could have a M44 made with older 91/30 and M38 parts. I recall hearing about an M44 with a Hex receiver once. Unfortunately unusual doesn't always mean valuable, just different.

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    • #3
      Donkeypunch0420
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1460

      This is not the be all end all in rarity charts, but can give you a good idea where your Mosin sits on the rarity scale. I have a handful of M44's, none of them made before 44' though, I certainly would not mind having your rifle in my collection. Yours scores a 7 on their chart.

      Pg slot เกมสล็อตออนไลน์ ที่มาแรงที่สุดในตอนนี้ เล่นสล็อตแตกง่าย แตกจริง สร้างกำไรในการเล่นได้ทุกวัน บน เว็บสล็อตออนไลน์ ที่ดีที่สุด

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      • #4
        omega
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2005
        • 3068

        I would say thats a nice find , rare date , first one Ive ever seen.

        very collectable with wartime date , may have seen some action during war.
        Last edited by omega; 07-08-2021, 9:48 PM.

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        • #5
          Mauserguy
          Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 440

          I also have a 1943 M44 from Big V from about that same time. As I recall from my research at the time, it is a rare item. Of course, as a refurb, it's value is limited, but a knowledgeable collector would love it.
          Mauserguy

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          • #6
            crotter
            Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 346

            Originally posted by Springfield45
            There should also be a year mark on the bottom of the receiver tang for when the receiver was made when you take it apart. But I think that they made some M44's using new and existing older parts. So you could have a M44 made with older 91/30 and M38 parts. I recall hearing about an M44 with a Hex receiver once. Unfortunately unusual doesn't always mean valuable, just different.
            Interesting. Had no idea about the receiver date stamp. Haven't had this rifle completely apart before. I will try and see if I can find it tomorrow.

            Thank you
            "I don't own them. I'm just their caretaker for a little while until they go on to the next caretaker. They aren't TOOLS.....they WERE tools but are now artifacts, implements of an earlier age that PRODUCED history and brought mankind's timeline to where it is at this moment. And as such, it is my responsibility to preserve them."

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            • #7
              I Swan
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 8770

              I have one but missing bayonet I have most the parts eventually I'll get one back on. Earlier Russian M44 bayonet is slightly different.

              The one I bought was actually being used as a range rental gun! Bore was OK though. I actually once owned a Finn capture M44 1943 date too. The 1944 M44 SA marked Finn is rarer though.

              All are super rare though only like 25-30 are known.

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              • #8
                crotter
                Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 346

                Originally posted by I Swan
                I have one but missing bayonet I have most the parts eventually I'll get one back on. Earlier Russian M44 bayonet is slightly different.

                The one I bought was actually being used as a range rental gun! Bore was OK though. I actually once owned a Finn capture M44 1943 date too. The 1944 M44 SA marked Finn is rarer though.

                All are super rare though only like 25-30 are known.
                25-30 of the 1943 date stamped M44's?
                "I don't own them. I'm just their caretaker for a little while until they go on to the next caretaker. They aren't TOOLS.....they WERE tools but are now artifacts, implements of an earlier age that PRODUCED history and brought mankind's timeline to where it is at this moment. And as such, it is my responsibility to preserve them."

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                • #9
                  crotter
                  Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 346

                  Took the rifle apart this morning and found the date stamp on the receiver tang.

                  Also 1943 dated.

                  As far as I can see the rifle is completely matching. The serial on the receiver, bolt, butt plate, and trigger guard housing all match.









                  Last edited by crotter; 07-09-2021, 10:20 AM.
                  "I don't own them. I'm just their caretaker for a little while until they go on to the next caretaker. They aren't TOOLS.....they WERE tools but are now artifacts, implements of an earlier age that PRODUCED history and brought mankind's timeline to where it is at this moment. And as such, it is my responsibility to preserve them."

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                  • #10
                    Mauserguy
                    Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 440

                    Okay. She's pretty, but how does she shoot?
                    Mauserguy

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                    • #11
                      I Swan
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 8770

                      Originally posted by crotter
                      25-30 of the 1943 date stamped M44's?
                      I believe the Finns captured about 200ish M44's and now about 25-30 are known as Finn SA marked in collections.

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                      • #12
                        crotter
                        Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 346

                        Originally posted by Mauserguy
                        Okay. She's pretty, but how does she shoot?
                        Mauserguy
                        Thanks,

                        Shoots decently enough. The only Mosin in my collection so don't have any other experience to compare it. Definitely a cannon- typical huge fireball out the muzzle!

                        I've only shot it a handful of times on the 50 yard range. I honestly don't get out shooting much and am more into the collecting aspect of the hobby. It doesn't help that finding any decent ranges around the bay area is not so easy. I find them way overcrowded and just not a fun environment to be at. Looking forward to moving out of the state and obtaining some acreage to enjoy shooting the collection more on my own property.

                        Originally posted by I Swan
                        I believe the Finns captured about 200ish M44's and now about 25-30 are known as Finn SA marked in collections.
                        Thanks for clarifying.
                        "I don't own them. I'm just their caretaker for a little while until they go on to the next caretaker. They aren't TOOLS.....they WERE tools but are now artifacts, implements of an earlier age that PRODUCED history and brought mankind's timeline to where it is at this moment. And as such, it is my responsibility to preserve them."

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                        • #13
                          beerman
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 4739

                          Nice find OP. But man, I move well away when another shooter has an M44 on the bench..Same category as AR And AK pistols. Horrific muzzle blast to everyone but the shooter... That said, I miss the Big5 sales and coupons. My last 91/30 was $49.. Should have bought 50 of them. Enjoy your blaster bro!

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                          • #14
                            omega
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 3068

                            the Russian M44 saw extensive use in Vietnam

                            the M44 Mosin Nagant with folding bayonet is a classic military bolt action that saw a lot of use in the VN war , also variants from other Soviet bloc countries , including the CHI COM TYPE 53

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