Luger help — FTE

[ComBlocAddict]

[kris smith]

[zinfull]

The extractor or the spring could be worn. Fiochi ammo is under power so I normally do not use it in Lugers. Yes the will fire out of battery. You can test this by releasing the toggle slide slowly until the spring no longer moves the toggle. You can then pull the trigger and that will seat the toggle forward. I do this when storing then for a long period.

[Sunnysideup]

I would say check the springs as well, best of luck and I hope it's a quick fix!

[smle-man]

My interarms Mauser Swiss pattern does the same thing. The gun seems very sensitive to case length and overall length. If the case is just a hair too long it may not extract. WWB seems to have all the right specs for lugers.

[ComBlocAddict]

Thanks for all the replies.

Yes the will fire out of battery. You can test this by releasing the toggle slide slowly until the spring no longer moves the toggle. You can then pull the trigger and that will seat the toggle forward.

Good to know! I did this with a snap cap in the chamber, lowered the toggle until the extractor was raised up on the case rim but not latched past it, pulled the trigger. Indeed, the toggle jumped forward and went into battery. Snap cap extracted as you'd expect when I pulled the toggle back.

I would expect the same to happen with a live round -- even if not fully seated, the trigger press would make it seat, no?

My interarms Mauser Swiss pattern does the same thing. The gun seems very sensitive to case length and overall length. If the case is just a hair too long it may not extract. WWB seems to have all the right specs for lugers.

Oh that's interesting. But if the case were a schmidge too long the extractor would just seat farther forward, but still be lined up to catch on the rim. It would extract in that case, wouldn't it?

I've ordered a spring pack. Since it's my first Luger I don't have a good sense for how strong the extractor tension should be. I can easily pull the extractor up with my fingernail. Maybe that's a bad extractor spring? Springs are cheap so will see if it makes a difference. I still don't see how that would affect extraction.

[zinfull]

Thanks for all the replies.



Good to know! I did this with a snap cap in the chamber, lowered the toggle until the extractor was raised up on the case rim but not latched past it, pulled the trigger. Indeed, the toggle jumped forward and went into battery. Snap cap extracted as you'd expect when I pulled the toggle back.

I would expect the same to happen with a live round -- even if not fully seated, the trigger press would make it seat, no?

I would NOT do this on a live round. You are releasing the firing pin and it would cause an out of battery discharge and blow your gun up. The firing pin momentum hitting forward is what causes the closure. In this position hold the toggle and pull the trigger then slowly lower the toggle into battery, thus decocking the Luger. Store it this way and the firing pin spring will not be compressed.

[sonofeugene]

The extractor or the spring could be worn. Fiochi ammo is under power so I normally do not use it in Lugers. Yes the will fire out of battery. You can test this by releasing the toggle slide slowly until the spring no longer moves the toggle. You can then pull the trigger and that will seat the toggle forward. I do this when storing then for a long period.

It can also fire with the barrel/slide assembly removed from the frame. Always be very careful to completely unload the gun when disassembling it.

And NATO/+ ammo is NOT recommended for Lugers.

[smle-man]

Thanks for all the replies.



Good to know! I did this with a snap cap in the chamber, lowered the toggle until the extractor was raised up on the case rim but not latched past it, pulled the trigger. Indeed, the toggle jumped forward and went into battery. Snap cap extracted as you'd expect when I pulled the toggle back.

I would expect the same to happen with a live round -- even if not fully seated, the trigger press would make it seat, no?



Oh that's interesting. But if the case were a schmidge too long the extractor would just seat farther forward, but still be lined up to catch on the rim. It would extract in that case, wouldn't it?

I've ordered a spring pack. Since it's my first Luger I don't have a good sense for how strong the extractor tension should be. I can easily pull the extractor up with my fingernail. Maybe that's a bad extractor spring? Springs are cheap so will see if it makes a difference. I still don't see how that would affect extraction.

I don't know but I think the case gets stuck in the throat of the chamber and the extractor pulls over the rim.

[bohoki]

lugers are designed to fire some stout ammo and fiocchi loads their 9mm so it wont blow up their weakest itallian 9mm

now i'm not saying find some hirtenberger smg ammo but find some stuff that works and use it

stick with the big 3 rem,win,fed

[93chipper]

Could be a bad batch of ammo, gun may need cleaning, or springs are worn

[ComBlocAddict]

[Wheellock]

That looks like a fair difference in the spring length. The extractor looks fine to my untrained eye.

Let us know if it starts behaving.

[Wheellock]

It can also fire with the barrel/slide assembly removed from the frame. Always be very careful to completely unload the gun when disassembling it.

I had half noticed that before, but never given it much thought. Now that you mention it though, it should work quite well. It might be a little uncomfortable to hold, but it would stay locked up and be an odd shaped single shot.

[zinfull]

Did you check to see if the chamber is smooth?