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  • kris smith
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 2057

    7mm rolling block

    Just got one of these today. Does anyone have a solid source on the production dates and who contracted them or were they just commercial production. Also where did they hide the serial number on these things.
    sent from the depths of my subconscious
  • #2
    Paul_R
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2011
    • 2847

    My original Remington Model 1 has no serial number.
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    • #3
      SVT-40
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2008
      • 12894

      Most made for Mexico and other South America had no serial numbers.

      I assume it's chambered in 7mm?
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      • #4
        Sir Toast
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 3140

        I just got a 22lr rolling block No. 4 out of jail last week. The serial number is on the bottom of the barrel just in front of the fore end. Mine is a takedown model. It looks great, like it belongs in a museum. Then I looked down the bore and it looked like dumpster fire. Oh well.

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        • #5
          870classic
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 460

          Since you mentioned the rifle is a "7mm rolling block" I will assume that the rifle is a Remington Rolling Block in 7x57mm Mauser caliber. The 7x57 caliber was added in the later versions of the rifle. (Although you never know, the barrel could have been swapped.)

          The rifle should have a tang stamped serial number or a side stamped serial number. In addition, look at the butt stock and the forearm as these pieces might be stamped as well.

          Best regards,
          870classic.

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          • #6
            kris smith
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 2057

            sent from the depths of my subconscious

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            • #7
              kendog4570
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2008
              • 5180

              No 5's are smokeless actions and came in 3 variations. 1897, 1902, and 1910. By far the majority of them are in 7MM. The main difference between them is the extractor and the fore end wood. The 97 has a sliding extractor and the 02 and 10 have a rotary. The 1910 has metal reinforced hand guard. Patent dates on the tang are different too.
              Due to international sales, the Rolling Block saved Remington's corporate bacon after the American Civil War.
              I don't remember all the details, but the 7MM chambering was slightly different than the 7X57 Mauser. Either pressure, dimension,or both.

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              • #8
                kris smith
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 2057

                sent from the depths of my subconscious

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                • #9
                  pacrat
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2014
                  • 10283

                  Originally posted by kris smith
                  I’ve heard that the dimensions are different as they were produced before the standardization of the caliber. So fire forming brass is needed to shoot them reliably with out damaging the cases.

                  Good advice. Euro firearms standardization, [CIP] began in 1914. 22 yrs after the 7x57 introduced in 1892.

                  But American standardization, [SAAMI] began in 1926.
                  Last edited by pacrat; 04-25-2021, 1:52 AM.

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                  • #10
                    smle-man
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10584

                    Originally posted by kendog4570
                    No 5's are smokeless actions and came in 3 variations. 1897, 1902, and 1910. By far the majority of them are in 7MM. The main difference between them is the extractor and the fore end wood. The 97 has a sliding extractor and the 02 and 10 have a rotary. The 1910 has metal reinforced hand guard. Patent dates on the tang are different too.
                    Due to international sales, the Rolling Block saved Remington's corporate bacon after the American Civil War.
                    I don't remember all the details, but the 7MM chambering was slightly different than the 7X57 Mauser. Either pressure, dimension,or both.
                    I had a 1902 in 7mm. Chamber dimensions seemed to be the same as it readily chambered FN 7x57 surplus rounds. I pulled the bullets and reduced the load by 10% and never had an issue with them.

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                    • #11
                      Pofoo
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1681

                      In line with a lot of the above info, my 7mm has the name Antonio pricked into the forearm, which I interpreted to mean it probably came from Mexico. The 7mm brass does expanded a little, but factory stuff shoots just fine. I have no idea if the 7mm specs were different then or if the chamber is just on the large side.

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                      • #12
                        kendog4570
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 5180

                        Rare historical proof that Tony had it one time or another...😬

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