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  • Usmc0844spare
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 1318

    Black powder rifle build kits?

    Does anyone have any good links that explain these kits and so forth a bit more? Interested in understanding the different types ("here's a block of wood and a slab of cast iron, go to it" vs "just stain the stock and you're done") and anything else about them.

    I have zero black powder experience, FYI.
  • #2
    Dutch3
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2010
    • 14181

    You can look at Track of the Wolf, they have a variety of kits and information.

    Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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    • #3
      Garand Hunter
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 2772

      CVA maybe, used to be quite popular, don't know if they are still around or whatever. Their kits were some work and not just a hunk of wood and iron/brass.

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      Last edited by Garand Hunter; 03-09-2021, 3:55 PM. Reason: added sentence

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      • #4
        CptDan
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 519

        Do a YouTube search on Kibler Rifles a great video on putting a southern Mountain rifle together

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        • #5
          M1NM
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2011
          • 7966

          Here is a good magazine. https://www.muzzleloadermagazine.com/
          My LH Southern Mountain Rifle custom built by Jack Garner.

          Last edited by M1NM; 05-05-2021, 8:36 AM.

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          • #6
            Tom-ADC
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 3614

            Originally posted by Dutch3
            You can look at Track of the Wolf, they have a variety of kits and information.

            https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Category.aspx/588
            Good info here plus Cabelas has kits. I recall years ago walking through a outdoor sale at the Sear store in Chula Vista and bought .58 cal Zouave rifle kit by Zoli was less than $50 made a great shooting accurate rifle.
            US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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            • #7
              peterinsj
              Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 191

              Book

              A great book for understanding the hunk of iron and piece of wood version is: Art of Building the Pennsylvania Longrifle, an illustrated instruction manual, by Dixon, Ehrig, and Miller.

              When I read through it I learned that I didn't have the skill, tools and experience for that type of project but I got a lots of information on how to finish and older Track of the Wolf kit that had a unfinished curly maple stock and rough in the white barrel. I got it from a guy who had it sitting untouched since purchase collecting dust for 20 years I didn't have to dovetail the barrel but I spent many weeks draw filing the barrel, fitting the sights, smoothing the various metalwork. The stock came out beautiful, the metal was finished brown. I ended up with beautiful rifle. After that I stripped my Traditions flintlock and refinished it completely.

              Like everything else, you can go off into the dark side. I have heard the Lyman Plainsman kit is a good quality gateway kit.

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              • #8
                THBailey
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 737

                I got a Lyman Great Plains Rifle kit from MidwayUSA a few years ago. They had a good sale on them so I thought why not? Wasn't a whole lot to putting it together. The stock was pretty fully inletted so it only required final sanding and some polishing and finishing for some of the metal parts.

                These are some web pages I have found helpful:

                Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French & Indian War, Civil War reenactors.


                Modern muzzleloading hunting forum & muzzle loading classifieds. Modern muzzle loading forums for inline muzzleloading, white muzzleloaders, bullet casting, smokeless, sidelock, traditional.


                The first is for the Dan'l Boone reenactor types, the second for those after the latest and greatest.
                Last edited by THBailey; 03-10-2021, 12:11 PM.
                THBailey


                As Will Rogers once said:
                "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects."

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                • #9
                  Bainter1212
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 5936

                  I have a Kibler Colonial kit I have yet to start working on. It is a nice kit, all of the work you have to do is wood and metal finishing.

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                  • #10
                    rmnc3r
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2017
                    • 981

                    Depends on the style and era that tickles yer fancy

                    I build Longrifles using blanks and pre-carved stocks - since the late '80s





                    I hear Kibler Kits are beginner friendly and Jim Kibler offers great support
                    Explore premium black powder rifles & muzzleloaders crafted with precision & historical accuracy. Build your flintlock rifle kit today at Kibler's Longrifles.

                    Kibler's Longrifles is a supplier of muzzleloader kits, flintlock related parts and supplies, and custom rifles. Jim Kibler's workshop is located in eastern Ohio where he creates historically accurate 18th and 19th century European and American guns.




                    Great site for learning and exchange of ideas: https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php

                    Gun Building: https://americanlongrifles.org/forum....php?board=2.0
                    Last edited by rmnc3r; 03-10-2021, 3:41 PM.

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                    • #11
                      THBailey
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 737

                      Originally posted by rmnc3r
                      Depends on the style and era that tickles yer fancy
                      A really key point. What do you plan to do with it? If you plan to hunt with it in California you need a gun that can shoot something "non-toxic" which rules out the classic patched round ball. Other states have other requirements. Gonna just make holes in paper or hang it on the wall? No worries.
                      THBailey


                      As Will Rogers once said:
                      "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects."

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                      • #12
                        MajorSideburns
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 1664

                        Originally posted by Bainter1212
                        I have a Kibler Colonial kit I have yet to start working on. It is a nice kit, all of the work you have to do is wood and metal finishing.
                        Man how long have you been sitting on that thing!

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                        • #13
                          Bainter1212
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 5936

                          Originally posted by MajorSideburns
                          Man how long have you been sitting on that thing!

                          Haha. Well over a year now. It's on the top shelf in my garage.

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                          • #14
                            Spyder
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 16988

                            Tagging for info, as this is one of the things I've been wanting to do for a bunch of years and never put in the time.

                            I want a Pennsylvania rifle reminiscent of the stuff used in the 1770s, and a front stuffer shotgun that I can take out and shoot a couple of dove with once or twice a year.

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